Hi guys. I'm loving the new album more and more with every listen. Well done on such a fantastic album.
I would like to bring your attention to a slight defect on side 2 of the first LP at the very start of the record and the introduction of "Lights Out".
There is a very noticeable scratch sound which is a little annoying but doesn't disrupt my enjoyment of the album. I have a clear vinyl copy of the album. How do I post pics of it from my iPhone?
Does anyone else with a vinyl copy have the same issue?
Not looking for a replacement or anything, just thought I should point it out.
And now, back to the music........
😃
And that says everything about why I will never go back to vinyl. It would ruin it for me, totally. And I would be waiting, on edge, on every disc I ever put on. I know CD's aren't perfect but I just don't get vinyl anymore
Quote from: owen on May 31, 2016, 12:05:54 PM
And that says everything about why I will never go back to vinyl. It would ruin it for me, totally. And I would be waiting, on edge, on every disc I ever put on. I know CD's aren't perfect but I just don't get vinyl anymore
Totally agree. Too many things that can affect the final output, however, being fair, I have yet to compare vinyl vs CD in a straight fight. I spent years wishing they would invent an instant access format which wouldn't be open to potential damage if you wanted to listen to the same track again, and didn't come back all clicky if you played it on someone else's system etc. The only thing I miss is the packaging!
Quote from: H3WMW on May 31, 2016, 11:00:40 AM
Hi guys. I'm loving the new album more and more with every listen. Well done on such a fantastic album.
I would like to bring your attention to a slight defect on side 2 of the first LP at the very start of the record and the introduction of "Lights Out".
There is a very noticeable scratch sound which is a little annoying but doesn't disrupt my enjoyment of the album. I have a clear vinyl copy of the album. How do I post pics of it from my iPhone?
Does anyone else with a vinyl copy have the same issue?
Not looking for a replacement or anything, just thought I should point it out.
And now, back to the music........
😃
Yep, me too. It's quite bad on mine If there are a few of us, maybe Nellie can get the manufacturer to replace them. I haven't contacted her about it yet, but was going to.
I haven't got the apparatus to play it to confirm, but I did manage to find a blemish on my copy which I assume is the problem.
It was tricky to get the right light etc, but I managed to get a photo:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ys24tht63971vd/2016-05-31%2017.12.35.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ys24tht63971vd/2016-05-31%2017.12.35.jpg?dl=0)
Quote from: JakeWorrell on May 31, 2016, 05:23:04 PM
I haven't got the apparatus to play it to confirm, but I did manage to find a blemish on my copy which I assume is the problem.
It was tricky to get the right light etc, but I managed to get a photo:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ys24tht63971vd/2016-05-31%2017.12.35.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ys24tht63971vd/2016-05-31%2017.12.35.jpg?dl=0)
That's an excellent photo - seems to be mainly on the right channel on my copy - have been listening to the CD apart from side 4 with the
secret track ;)
From today's comments on FB, we will need to construct a rhyme to let Nellie know in the right and polite way :-X
Quote from: L33VEY on May 31, 2016, 10:31:03 PM
From today's comments on FB, we will need to construct a rhyme to let Nellie know in the right and polite way :-X
To the limericks thread!!
Quote from: JakeWorrell on May 31, 2016, 10:36:17 PM
Quote from: L33VEY on May 31, 2016, 10:31:03 PM
From today's comments on FB, we will need to construct a rhyme to let Nellie know in the right and polite way :-X
To the limericks thread!!
Already started - whoever finishes it has to post it to Nellie...
Thanks for the heads up. Very sorry about this, it disappointing considering what it cost to make.
I think my copy has it too actually! Nellie and I were on it to Inside Out today, Nellie is replacing as many as she can with the stock we have left, I'll keep the pressure up with the manufacturers in the meantime.
Again sincere apologies for this. :(
Jem
Quote from: Jem on May 31, 2016, 10:38:33 PM
Again sincere apologies for this. :(
Not to worry Jem, these things happen!
I'm quite happy to wait until there is adequate stock to replace mine. In fact, perhaps some of us could do an exchange with Nellie at one of the gigs to save the postage, assuming stock etc of course.
Frankly I'll do whatever will save you and Nellie the most bother.
Those last two posts, from Jem and Jake, just say it all about why I love this place. Our refuge from the madness.
Quote from: Trapezium Artist on June 01, 2016, 06:42:26 AM
Our refuge from the madness.
Depends how you define madness... :P ;)
Honestly, I'm fine. The half second it actually effects is entirely not worth the money it would cost to repress things in my opinion. I don't mind keeping my slightly flawed vinyl :D
Quote from: RobRideout on June 01, 2016, 04:01:57 PM
Honestly, I'm fine. The half second it actually effects is entirely not worth the money it would cost to repress things in my opinion. I don't mind keeping my slightly flawed vinyl :D
I agree with this, but if the manufacturers have cocked them up then they should be footing the bill anyway. If it's going to be a cost to Jem/Frost* (which it
really shouldn't) then yep I'm 100% happy keeping mine as it is.
Quote from: Trapezium Artist on June 01, 2016, 06:42:26 AM
Those last two posts, from Jem and Jake, just say it all about why I love this place. Our refuge from the madness.
Absolutely.
Have you received your copy yet?
Shirley you could've had it beamed from Jodell Bank via your tin tray in space & whipped round the Hadron Collider :)
;) I have a SW cd with no music on at all... Just the label! I bought another. Maybe it's a secret promo to up sales! After all, we all have two versions already... It is an infestation plan!!!!
Quote from: RobRideout on June 01, 2016, 04:01:57 PM
Honestly, I'm fine. The half second it actually effects is entirely not worth the money it would cost to repress things in my opinion. I don't mind keeping my slightly flawed vinyl :D
It's quite a lot more than that on mine, so I'm hoping the manufacturers do cough up :(
Saying that, I'm not bothered what colour my vinyl is, as I bought it to listen to, not to look at, so I'd be just as happy with a boring black copy, if that helps.
Quote from: H3WMW on May 31, 2016, 11:00:40 AM
Does anyone else with a vinyl copy have the same issue?
Yeah, mine arrived today, and I have the same issue.
Track 1 on side 2 (which is a quiet one): lots of scratching noises.
Track 2: during the quieter parts, scratching noises again.
Side 1: scratching noises during the quieter parts of track 1.
Side 3 and 4 are okay.
There are also strange black dots inside the vinyl of side 1, but they don't seem to affect the sound.
Nellie, do I contact you or the label for a replacement of vinyl 1?
The shirt is very cool, btw. Can anyone explain the meaning of the maze to me?
Quote from: ich_bin_besser on June 02, 2016, 04:59:08 PM
The shirt is very cool, btw. Can anyone explain the meaning of the maze to me?
Ah, we've covered that elsewhere before! 8)
Perhaps thinking of it as a 3 dimensional object instead of a 2 dimensional maze makes it appear like a well known recording place... ;)
Quote from: D S on June 02, 2016, 05:16:26 PM
Quote from: ich_bin_besser on June 02, 2016, 04:59:08 PM
The shirt is very cool, btw. Can anyone explain the meaning of the maze to me?
Ah, we've covered that elsewhere before! 8)
Perhaps thinking of it as a 3 dimensional object instead of a 2 dimensional maze makes it appear like a well known recording place... ;)
http://frostmusic.net/forum/index.php?topic=4257.60
I have played side 1 all through and only noticed one small scratch.
When I played side 2 there was a sort of "whoosh" noise even before the track had started. This noise is present when a patch, of what looks like some sort of liquid has been spilt and dried on from the edge of the disc to about half way through track 1, spins past.
I immediately rescued my prescious stylus from this torture and put the disc back to bed.
I haven't even played the second disc yet. Luckily we have the cd to play with.
As mentioned by ich_bin_besser my disc 1 also has black flecks moulded into it but disc 2 looks ok.
I sent a message through the Merch Desk's "contact us" page on Sunday but as yet have had no reply.
Quote from: Mikey on June 01, 2016, 07:02:59 PM
Quote from: Trapezium Artist on June 01, 2016, 06:42:26 AM
Those last two posts, from Jem and Jake, just say it all about why I love this place. Our refuge from the madness.
Absolutely.
Have you received your copy yet?
Shirley you could've had it beamed from Jodell Bank via your tin tray in space & whipped round the Hadron Collider :)
I have: it arrived late Saturday, I think ;D
But hard as it may be (for me) to believe, I haven't listened to it yet ::)
Well, apart from First Day and the opening moments of Numbers, which I started listening to on one of my bike rides, but which (a) had me worried that I wasn't hearing things properly over the wind noise and (b) scared the living daylights out of me enough that I feared for my 30km/h life :o
Don't get me wrong: there was absolutely nothing wrong with that v limited bit of music, just that listening for the first time while biking was clearly not going to work.
I've decided that the first play through must be at home, sitting in the couch in front of my good stereo and speakers, to do it the justice I am absolutely certain it deserves (if only because you lot have been raving about it ;)). I have thus refused to listen to it on my bike, in the car, or even on the two-hour flights to and from Spain I just did. Nope.
So, this weekend, I aim to kick my family out of the house, turn it up to 11, and have a proper one-man (I can say that, even though it's politically incorrect, because it's just me) listening party.
That's how we roll at TA Towers 8)
Good on you! I have a feeling you won't be disappointed!
I am pretty much listening to it at every opportunity.
Brilliant.
Tell me, Trapezium Artist, when you play vinyl whilst riding your bike do you balance the turntable on the handlebar or do you have a trailer? ???
Perhaps you have one of these.............http://www.vincentbeijersbergen.nl/Feats-Per-Minute
Quote from: jt57 on June 03, 2016, 05:04:13 PM
Tell me, Trapezium Artist, when you play vinyl whilst riding your bike do you balance the turntable on the handlebar or do you have a trailer? ???
Perhaps you have one of these.............http://www.vincentbeijersbergen.nl/Feats-Per-Minute
Well, I do have a record player and quite a collection of vinyl from the first time around, but am not young enough to find it trendy again ::), so they're all in the attic somewhere. I only have the CD version.
Which has only been touched once so far, to be ripped into 320kbps AAC files, and thus I'm sure my bits will be absolutely pristine & scratch-free when I deposit said silver disc in the machine tomorrow :P
As for that bike LP player, only the cloggies, only the blessed cloggies ...
Of course we all know that the real defect is that it's just too awesome!
Has anyone said what the extra track on the vinyl version is yet?
Quote from: Pedro on June 05, 2016, 12:31:58 PM
Has anyone said what the extra track on the vinyl version is yet?
If you don't know then it must be one hell of a secret :)
One man's defect is another man's collector's item.
Oh, and TA, please refrain from putting your bits in the disc player. Some decorum, if you would, sir. :)
Quote from: gr8gonzo on June 05, 2016, 07:43:15 PM
One man's defect is another man's collector's item.
Oh, and TA, please refrain from putting your bits in the disc player. Some decorum, if you would, sir. :)
I'm horrified to admit that I haven't placed any of my bits, dangly or otherwise, in my disc player yet.
Yup, I've had "Falling Satellites" more than a week and I simply haven't had the opportunity to sit down in front of the stereo and do the right thing.
I'm appalled: how has it come to this?
I think I'm going to have to try again tomorrow morning after the kids have gone to school.
you're a stronger man than I, Gunga Din.
Quote from: rogerg on June 05, 2016, 11:47:39 PM
you're a stronger man than I, Gunga Din.
That may be 8) but my strength is becoming mightily tested: number one daughter was ill this morning, so did not go to school, leaving me yet another day further from my promised FS listening session ::)
Quote from: Pedro on June 05, 2016, 12:31:58 PM
Has anyone said what the extra track on the vinyl version is yet?
After the final chord of "British Wintertime", there's around 9 minutes of slow, quite dark instrumental stuff, almost ambient. Only keyboards. The mood is different compared to BW, more haunting. No hidden messages to be heard (but a very obvious one at the very end ;) ).
Has anybody got any news on what's happening about replacements for the faulty ones ?
Sorry everyone, I have neglected this forum for a while.
There is a small number of copies of the clear vinyl that has a stamp sized scratched area on (I think) side 2 of the first LP. I would like everyone to send them back to me, or at least the faulty disc so that I can count all the dodgy ones and replace them.
One problem is that if there are loads, I don't have enough held back to replace them and they will have to be black vinyl.
I have one box (10) in reserve that I will take on tour to replace any that need replacing, after that they will need to be sent to me in the post.
Quote from: Nellie on June 11, 2016, 05:14:35 PM
Sorry everyone, I have neglected this forum for a while.
There is a small number of copies of the clear vinyl that has a stamp sized scratched area on (I think) side 2 of the first LP. I would like everyone to send them back to me, or at least the faulty disc so that I can count all the dodgy ones and replace them.
One problem is that if there are loads, I don't have enough held back to replace them and they will have to be black vinyl.
I have one box (10) in reserve that I will take on tour to replace any that need replacing, after that they will need to be sent to me in the post.
I shall bring mine to Reading.. No need to answer message left..
I'll bring mine to the Reading gig, and I'm happy with a black one.
Quote from: Nellie on June 11, 2016, 05:14:35 PMI would like everyone to send them back to me, or at least the faulty disc so that I can count all the dodgy ones and replace them.
Okay, thanks for the info. Guess I'll keep mine, then, despite of the faults.
Quote from: ich_bin_besser on June 12, 2016, 02:08:22 PM
Quote from: Nellie on June 11, 2016, 05:14:35 PMI would like everyone to send them back to me, or at least the faulty disc so that I can count all the dodgy ones and replace them.
Okay, thanks for the info. Guess I'll keep mine, then, despite of the faults.
Why? Send it back and I'll replace it.
Hey IBB, How much would it cost to send it from Germany?
I will refund his postage costs, too.
But he will have a rarity!
Quote from: Nellie on June 12, 2016, 04:51:19 PM
I will refund his postage costs, too.
Really? Now that's a nice offer - vielen Dank! :)
Guess it makes sense to send both LP's?
Pedro, no idea about the costs. 7 Euro, I'd guess.
Quote from: Jem on May 31, 2016, 10:38:33 PM
Thanks for the heads up. Very sorry about this, it disappointing considering what it cost to make.
I think my copy has it too actually! Nellie and I were on it to Inside Out today, Nellie is replacing as many as she can with the stock we have left, I'll keep the pressure up with the manufacturers in the meantime.
Again sincere apologies for this. :(
Jem
Jem, you have nothing to apologise for. These things happen and can't be helped mate. I was actually happy to keep my copy but Nellie kindly offered to give me a new one which I will swap with my dodgy one with her at the Merch desk at the Edinburgh gig on Friday.
Perhaps you and the boys could sign my new copy after the gig Jem? That would be sweet. :D
Quote from: Nellie on June 11, 2016, 05:14:35 PM
Sorry everyone, I have neglected this forum for a while.
There is a small number of copies of the clear vinyl that has a stamp sized scratched area on (I think) side 2 of the first LP. I would like everyone to send them back to me, or at least the faulty disc so that I can count all the dodgy ones and replace them.
One problem is that if there are loads, I don't have enough held back to replace them and they will have to be black vinyl.
I have one box (10) in reserve that I will take on tour to replace any that need replacing, after that they will need to be sent to me in the post.
Hi Nellie,
I hope I'm still ok to get a replacement in Edinburgh? That's if you don't give away all your 10 reserves tomorrow night. ;D
Quote from: H3WMW on June 14, 2016, 11:22:06 PM
Quote from: Jem on May 31, 2016, 10:38:33 PM
Perhaps you and the boys could sign my new copy after the gig Jem? That would be sweet. :D
I'm happy to confirm that they are indeed happy to sign FS album covers afterwards ;D
And that my replacement plays perfectly - thank you Nellie
Quote from: L33VEY on June 16, 2016, 07:19:02 PM
Quote from: H3WMW on June 14, 2016, 11:22:06 PM
Quote from: Jem on May 31, 2016, 10:38:33 PM
Perhaps you and the boys could sign my new copy after the gig Jem? That would be sweet. :D
I'm happy to confirm that they are indeed happy to sign FS album covers afterwards ;D
And that my replacement plays perfectly - thank you Nellie
Nice one L33VEY. Were you at the Reading gig last night?
I'm at the Edinburgh gig tomorrow night. Can't wait!!! :D
Sent in my vinyl, btw.
7 Euro, it was, indeed.
Quote from: ich_bin_besser on June 17, 2016, 06:47:03 PM
Sent in my vinyl, btw.
7 Euro, it was, indeed.
7p, that's a bargain! That's like thrupence ha'penny in old money...
I'm happy to report that the lovely Nellie replaced my copy at the Edinburgh gig tonight.
And Jem, John, Nathan and Craig all signed it. And so did the album cover designer Paul Tippett. :D
Quote from: H3WMW on June 18, 2016, 01:58:34 AM
I'm happy to report that the lovely Nellie replaced my copy at the Edinburgh gig tonight.
And Jem, John, Nathan and Craig all signed it. And so did the album cover designer Paul Tippett. :D
In related news, I now know what the W's stand for. ;D
Quote from: gr8gonzo on June 18, 2016, 02:24:04 AM
Quote from: H3WMW on June 18, 2016, 01:58:34 AM
I'm happy to report that the lovely Nellie replaced my copy at the Edinburgh gig tonight.
And Jem, John, Nathan and Craig all signed it. And so did the album cover designer Paul Tippett. :D
In related news, I now know what the W's stand for. ;D
:D
And the M is for Mark. ;)
Nellie, thanks a lot for the replacement!! :)
No problem :-)