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Title: JM on Closer to the Sun
Post by: D S on June 22, 2016, 07:47:17 AM
Just in case you missed this on the main website.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v3uVBt0nRQQ
Lovely sounds. Spoke to JM after the Edinburgh gig and complimented him getting the Satch solo spot on but he was quite modest about it, saying it really wasn't that difficult. However, as this shows, he clearly put a lot of work into getting it all sounding right.  8)
Title: Re: JM on Closer to the Sun
Post by: Trapezium Artist on June 22, 2016, 09:30:11 AM
Quote from: D S on June 22, 2016, 07:47:17 AM
Just in case you missed this on the main website.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v3uVBt0nRQQ
Lovely sounds. Spoke to JM after the Edinburgh gig and complimented him getting the Satch solo spot on but he was quite modest about it, saying it really wasn't that difficult. However, as this shows, he clearly put a lot of work into getting it all sounding right.  8)

Beautiful bit of paraphrasing there, DS: I wouldn't quite characterise JM's words on the difficulty (or not) of Satriani's solo as "modesty"  ;)
Title: Re: JM on Closer to the Sun
Post by: D S on June 22, 2016, 01:04:30 PM
This is a family forum!  ;)
Title: Re: JM on Closer to the Sun
Post by: JakeWorrell on June 22, 2016, 03:27:24 PM
I don't know what John said, but I would agree that it's a very simple solo. I expected way more notes from Satch, but I think it is very effective the way that it is. Simple and tasteful.
Title: Re: JM on Closer to the Sun
Post by: Mordwin on June 22, 2016, 06:54:11 PM
Quote from: JakeWorrell on June 22, 2016, 03:27:24 PM
I don't know what John said, but I would agree that it's a very simple solo. I expected way more notes from Satch, but I think it is very effective the way that it is. Simple and tasteful.

Which is why I prefer Satch to many of the other shredders out there... he can go from a torrent of notes to restrained and back, and knows when less is more... usually :D
Title: Re: JM on Closer to the Sun
Post by: JakeWorrell on June 22, 2016, 06:56:34 PM
Quote from: Mordwin on June 22, 2016, 06:54:11 PM
Which is why I prefer Satch to many of the other shredders out there... he can go from a torrent of notes to restrained and back, and knows when less is more... usually :D

I'm not overly familiar with Joseph Satchel's work, but that instantly makes me more interested in delving into to some of his music.

Interestingly I think the same could also be said of JM's solos!
Title: Re: JM on Closer to the Sun
Post by: D S on June 22, 2016, 08:04:52 PM
If you do want to explore, Jake, go for Surfing With Alien, Not of This Earth, Flying in A Blue Dream and The Extremist, pretty much in that order too.  I have faithfully bought every album he's ever done and seen him live lots of times but, if I'm brutally honest, it is a case of the law of diminishing returns with his later releases I'm afraid.  That said, I rather enjoyed Black Swans and Wormhole Wizards - Jem played keyboards for a few dates on that tour (although Mike Keneally played on the album).
Title: Re: JM on Closer to the Sun
Post by: Mordwin on June 22, 2016, 10:10:16 PM
Of the later material, I'm quite fond of Professor Satchafunkilus and the Musterion of Rock too :)
Title: Re: JM on Closer to the Sun
Post by: JakeWorrell on June 22, 2016, 11:21:41 PM
Thanks guys, I'll check them out as soon as I can work out how to get Falling Satellites out of my CD player!
Title: Re: JM on Closer to the Sun
Post by: Mikey on June 23, 2016, 12:34:48 PM
Quote from: D S on June 22, 2016, 08:04:52 PM
If you do want to explore, Jake, go for Surfing With Alien, Not of This Earth, Flying in A Blue Dream and The Extremist, pretty much in that order too.  I have faithfully bought every album he's ever done and seen him live lots of times but, if I'm brutally honest, it is a case of the law of diminishing returns with his later releases I'm afraid.  That said, I rather enjoyed Black Swans and Wormhole Wizards - Jem played keyboards for a few dates on that tour (although Mike Keneally played on the album).
I'd agree with that, start with the early stuff & work through in order. I find Joe a bit more consistent than Steve Vai, though Steve is a better showman live.
Title: Re: JM on Closer to the Sun
Post by: Brom on June 23, 2016, 09:04:31 PM
Quote from: Mikey on June 23, 2016, 12:34:48 PM
Quote from: D S on June 22, 2016, 08:04:52 PM
If you do want to explore, Jake, go for Surfing With Alien, Not of This Earth, Flying in A Blue Dream and The Extremist, pretty much in that order too.  I have faithfully bought every album he's ever done and seen him live lots of times but, if I'm brutally honest, it is a case of the law of diminishing returns with his later releases I'm afraid.  That said, I rather enjoyed Black Swans and Wormhole Wizards - Jem played keyboards for a few dates on that tour (although Mike Keneally played on the album).
I'd agree with that, start with the early stuff & work through in order. I find Joe a bit more consistent than Steve Vai, though Steve is a better showman live.

Ditto! What they said!

Saw him on a G3 gig in Brum a few years ago with Robert Fripp*, quite definitely the best guitar tone I've ever heard live!

*Who I didn't see as he sat at the back of the stage out of sight!!
Title: JM on Closer to the Sun
Post by: Mikey on June 23, 2016, 09:17:36 PM
Was that the tour where Robert Fripp sat on a chair behind a load of gizmo's


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Title: JM on Closer to the Sun
Post by: Mikey on June 23, 2016, 09:18:24 PM
Sorry, just worked out your *


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Title: Re: JM on Closer to the Sun
Post by: D S on June 23, 2016, 09:19:34 PM
The G3 with Satch, Vai and Fripp was bizarre - I saw it in Glasgow.  It opened with Fripp's solo set but all he did was create one of his electronic soundscapes (with him just sitting there) - a lot of people who'd come to hear shredding just went to the bar.  :-[  Then when the 3 of them played together at the end, Fripp took a guitar solo on Satch's Ice 9 and totally out-shredded Vai and Satch!  :o 
Title: Re: JM on Closer to the Sun
Post by: BrendanGee on June 24, 2016, 12:47:58 PM
Fripp is a bit of an enigma wrapped in a conundrum at the best of times.
That being said I'm a huge fan of King Crimson
Title: Re: JM on Closer to the Sun
Post by: H3WMW on June 26, 2016, 09:28:38 AM
Quote from: D S on June 23, 2016, 09:19:34 PM
The G3 with Satch, Vai and Fripp was bizarre - I saw it in Glasgow.  It opened with Fripp's solo set but all he did was create one of his electronic soundscapes (with him just sitting there) - a lot of people who'd come to hear shredding just went to the bar.  :-[  Then when the 3 of them played together at the end, Fripp took a guitar solo on Satch's Ice 9 and totally out-shredded Vai and Satch!  :o
I was at that gig as well.  It could've easily just been called G2. After the show I had a meet and greet with Satch and Vai and their session players including the fantastic Billy Sheehan who I chatted to with great interest.  There was no sign of Fripp anywhere.  Out of sight, out of mind.  haha
Title: Re: JM on Closer to the Sun
Post by: MikeEvs on June 27, 2016, 11:06:52 AM
I saw that G3 tour in London, it wasn't long after I'd been to see Vai with the Metropole orchestra in Amsterdam and had got to meet him.

So before the gig I was standing outside the Albert Hall chatting up the URAQT girl from the live at the Astoria DVD (she was a friend of Dave Weiner) and chatting with other fans when Vai turned up in a car with Pia.  He'd just come from the doctors as he was having trouble with his voice (much like Jem in Edinburgh recently).  Steve headed right inside but Pia hung around outside and spotted me, remembering meeting me in Amsterdam she came over for a chat. She asked me if I wanted to come to the after show meet and greet and I said yes so she called Dave Weiner over introduced us and told Dave to go get me a couple of passes.  So Dave headed back into the Albert Hall and came back with two after show passes for me.

During Fripp's set there was a section of fans that obviously wasn't enjoying it but rather than get up and go to the bar they stayed and proceeded to boo and heckle Fripp.  I wanted no part of that so I got up and headed to the bar instead.  At the after show I met up with this Canadian guy AJ who I'd met at the Amsterdam gigs and he took a photo of me with Satriani and I think he took a photo of me with Vai as well.  I chatted to Dave Weiner who took photos of me with Billy Sheehan and Tony MacAlpine.  I think it was Tony who took a photo of me and Dave.  I also chatted with the guys from Satriani's band which I think included Matt Bissonette and Jeff Campitelli.

I sat down at an empty table to text my made John from Ireland who I'd also met at the Amsterdam gig. When I looked up from sending the text Vai was sitting at the table and then Satch sat down and a few other people joined us and we chatted for a bit.  Fripp was there at the meet and greet as was Toyah she was a lot more chatty than he was!

Some cringeworthy photos:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/mphgt/G3London/Joe-Satriani.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mphgt/media/G3London/Joe-Satriani.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/mphgt/G3London/Steve-Vai.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mphgt/media/G3London/Steve-Vai.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/mphgt/G3London/Billy-Sheehan.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mphgt/media/G3London/Billy-Sheehan.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/mphgt/G3London/Tony-MacAlpine.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mphgt/media/G3London/Tony-MacAlpine.jpg.html)
Title: Re: JM on Closer to the Sun
Post by: rogerg on June 27, 2016, 11:29:15 AM
that's great, Mike!  Pretty cool!
Title: Re: JM on Closer to the Sun
Post by: Mikey on June 27, 2016, 11:32:52 AM
Quote from: rogerg on June 27, 2016, 11:29:15 AM
that's great, Mike!  Pretty cool!
Pretty cool?
Very cool  8) 8) 8)