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Title: A couple of keyboard related questions for Jem
Post by: EvilDragon on July 28, 2009, 10:32:42 AM
Hello mates, I'm a new one here, and I do have some questions for our dear fellow Jem. If anybody else knows to answer, please do :)

1. In BLM first synth solo, you mention how you made the lead sound. I can get to the first two patches, but I don't have KLCA MS-20 yet. Can you tell me if it's a preset sound, or did you tweak it yourself? In any way, can you hint me at how the sound's created, so I can try to mimic it with some other synths I do have (VAZ Modular, for example)?

2. What made you buy the Korg M3, when you're so full of love with your Fantoms? I personally think M3 is a great, great board, and has more lifelike sounds than a Roland. Still, the new Kurzweil PC3 trumps them both. Do you still have the M3? :)

3. Which synth of all you've ever had you like the most?


I'm a keyboard player too, that's why all the questions are keyboard-related :P

Cheers, thanks!
Title: Re: A couple of keyboard related questions for Jem
Post by: johninblack on July 28, 2009, 03:03:02 PM
Welcome aboard there EvilDragon. Enjoy your time here. :D
Title: Re: A couple of keyboard related questions for Jem
Post by: SerFox on July 29, 2009, 04:33:39 PM
My guess on 3 is the Jup 8 because it keeps him warm in winter  :D
Title: Re: A couple of keyboard related questions for Jem
Post by: Pedro on August 02, 2009, 11:39:26 PM
I'm pretty sure the M3 is no longer resident in The Cube.

Welcome aboard!  :)
Title: Re: A couple of keyboard related questions for Jem
Post by: rogerg on August 03, 2009, 12:40:58 AM
yes, welcome to the fun house, ED!  

and welcome back, Pedro!!
Title: Re: A couple of keyboard related questions for Jem
Post by: Jem on August 14, 2009, 01:33:17 PM
Quote from: "EvilDragon"Hello mates, I'm a new one here, and I do have some questions for our dear fellow Jem. If anybody else knows to answer, please do :)

hello hello! :D

Quote from: "EvilDragon"1. In BLM first synth solo, you mention how you made the lead sound. I can get to the first two patches, but I don't have KLCA MS-20 yet. Can you tell me if it's a preset sound, or did you tweak it yourself? In any way, can you hint me at how the sound's created, so I can try to mimic it with some other synths I do have (VAZ Modular, for example)?

I think I tweaked it. It's 2 dual sawtooth lead sounds, 1 with a lot of portamento and 1 without to get that classic APR Quadra kind of Banksian lead sound.

Quote from: "EvilDragon"2. What made you buy the Korg M3, when you're so full of love with your Fantoms? I personally think M3 is a great, great board, and has more lifelike sounds than a Roland. Still, the new Kurzweil PC3 trumps them both. Do you still have the M3? :)

I thought I'd give Korg a go again, see whether I was misplaced in my dislike. I know I'm very much in the minority about not liking Korg gear. In the end I sold it to a nice man called Ollie about 18 months ago. He loves it still.

Quote from: "EvilDragon"3. Which synth of all you've ever had you like the most?

blimey! what a question!!  :lol:

Perhaps controversially, I'm going to say the Fantom X6. When fully expanded, it had a lot of very useable sounds that sat very well in a mix. It was brilliant for the dayjob stuff, it was small, easy to use, the keyboard action was lovely and it paid for itself a thousand times over. In terms of bling, probably my custom white Voyager with the purple backlights would get the vote.
Title: Re: A couple of keyboard related questions for Jem
Post by: Mouse on August 14, 2009, 02:15:22 PM
Quote from: "Jem"In terms of bling, probably my custom white Voyager with the purple backlights would get the vote.

Drooool...
Title: Re: A couple of keyboard related questions for Jem
Post by: Gman on August 14, 2009, 03:30:25 PM
Quotemy custom white Voyager with the purple backlights

Did that come with a tooth starburst and loud 'ding' whenever you flashed a smile playing it?
Title: Re: A couple of keyboard related questions for Jem
Post by: Pedro on August 14, 2009, 10:46:26 PM
Quote from: "Gman"
Quotemy custom white Voyager with the purple backlights

Did that come with a tooth starburst and loud 'ding' whenever you flashed a smile playing it?
LOL Nah, Jem comes with one of them! :lol:
Title: Re: A couple of keyboard related questions for Jem
Post by: EvilDragon on August 16, 2009, 12:48:59 AM
Thanks very much for the replies, Jem. I did manage to get the MS20 lead with Legacy Cell now that I got a hold of KLCA :) Works very well! Now just to nail that awesome solo... :D



One more question: I'm noticing quite nice legato playing in that BLM solo. With the current lead sound that I managed to get following your tips from the Frost report, I can't get such fluent legatoing, and I'm not a keyboard newbie, I'm 16 years behind piano keys myself ^^' There are several tricks that I know of that guarantee perfect legato when soloing with a lead sound:

1. hold sustain pedal :)
2. increase release time of amplifier envelope a bit, just to glue the consecutive notes a bit.

Have you used one of those tricks to get such legato? I'm using it all the time, in fact, I'm not ashamed to admit! XD

EDIT: here's the demo of BLM lead sound as I tweaked it out. It's bitchin' awesome!

http://www.box.net/shared/n2y9bis9y6 (http://www.box.net/shared/n2y9bis9y6)
Title: Re: A couple of keyboard related questions for Jem
Post by: drblowthingsup on August 16, 2009, 12:44:49 PM
iv been playin keys for like 6 months now thanks to some motivation from frost* reports and jordan rudess's keyboard lessons on youtube lol but i have a piano rather than a keyboard so i just end up keepin my foot planted firmly on the sutain pedal when i do runs and stuff lol it sounds so very very old :(