It will be interesting to see which direction Jem takes with this new album.
Depending on the day, I go back and forth on which of the first two was better. The debut was certainly more "progressive rock" in some sense, and had brilliant moments, but EIMA was more song oriented, to the point, and more focused to a degree. I also thought the addition of Dec Burke on the second album gave the album a whole new dimension because of his range. Ok.....I think I just talked myself into EIMA being my favorite. (slightly!)
Subsequently, when he released The Dividing Line, I have to be honest, at the risk of being slammed for not being a fan boy, that song did nothing for me. It was too eclectic and scattered for my taste.
I am hoping Jem takes what was done on the first two and takes it to the next step instead of taking a hard left. I am also looking forward to hearing the result of using some larger studios for some of the recording....that can tend to take things like drums etc to the next level.
Well I don't see any need for any slamming, personal preferences are many and varied. I think of albums much like paintings, where some artists always paint the same sorts of things while others never paint the same thing twice.
I think TDL was almost a stream of consciousness thing, where Jem just let it happen and if I really had to rank it relative to the albums I would place it above EIMA but below Milliontown....but I'd rather just put them all in the collection and admire them.
One thing's for sure, we know that Jem won't be influenced by what we say. :)
Jem has implied that the next release will likely be more into electronica territory. There's a hint of glitch in Black Light Machine, plenty of 'fun with sounds' on EIMA, and coming off of his work on the new Losers album, plus the inclusion of dubstep wunderkind Blunders in the Frost* line-up would seem to indicate where he's heading musically. He previously stated that if he did a third Frost* album, it might sound something like the "Disappear Here" album by Hybrid. Get thee to YouTube and watch "Break My Soul" by Hybrid for a taste. It's dynamic, haunting stuff. Suggesting there'll be a bit of signature Frost* sound in the mix, the band Pendulum also come to mind. Track through the Immersion album.
In short, not prog. :D
True enough....but when has anything Jem's said been that closely related to what he actually does in the end? ;)
I'd say that's way more prog than prog rock. ;)
I heard it was going to be Ragga??!!! :D
Quote from: "gr8gonzo"it might sound something like the "Disappear Here" album by Hybrid. Get thee to YouTube and watch "Break My Soul" by Hybrid for a taste. It's dynamic, haunting stuff. Suggesting there'll be a bit of signature Frost* sound in the mix, the band Pendulum also come to mind. Track through the Immersion album.
In short, not prog. :D
I don't dislike Hybrid......but they are void of the rock gene. There are similarities to Hybrid on both of the previous 2 Frost albums.....a little techno, electronica, loops. etc... but with a rock treatment. Plus I think Jem has a much better sense of melody than Hybrid.
I for one am hoping and praying influences of The Losers don't creep too far in. From what I have heard of The Losers, it is completely void of soul and musicality......much of it sounds like those demo songs you hear in any consumer electronic keyboard or cheesy synth workstation. Very sequenced, quantized, and mechanical. But as Pedro says.....it's all about personal taste. He also hit it on the head with two other points.....first, where Jem starts is never where he ends up......(thank god he isn't an airline pilot).....and secondly, there is little chance he will ever be influenced by anything anyone else says, which is precisely why we have two great Frost albums already.
I am a bit different than some in that I am not one to dig everything an artist does just because I have always been a fan.
I am hoping Frost still sounds very Frost. I liken it to any other band......fill in the blanks......take Rush as an example.....some of their albums have been very different than the rest of their body of work, but at the end of the day, like the songs or not, it is still very much Rush in every regard. If Rush suddenly had Mandolins and Banjos on a record, it many ways it would cease to be Rush and would attract a completely different audience.
Jem is talented enough to take a crap on his keyboard and make it sound good so, i'm not worried at all. Just very excited!
QuoteI for one am hoping and praying influences of The Losers don't creep too far in. From what I have heard of The Losers, it is completely void of soul and musicality......much of it sounds like those demo songs you hear in any consumer electronic keyboard or cheesy synth workstation. Very sequenced, quantized, and mechanical.
Maybe a naked man in a field playing the lute would suit you better?
:shock:
Quote from: "Pedro":shock:
:lol:
I loved both albums.I thought TDL was the most exciting,well constructed pieces of musical mayhem i,d heard in ages.I think the influence of Jem,s stated musical preferences lately,his work with The Losers,and things like Craig,s DR.Oktopus leanings coupled with everything he,s done before make the prospect of something diffferent,and wonderful very likely!I,m really not fussed if its a slight departure,i,m just enjoying the trip!
Quote from: "danofmayz"QuoteI for one am hoping and praying influences of The Losers don't creep too far in. From what I have heard of The Losers, it is completely void of soul and musicality......much of it sounds like those demo songs you hear in any consumer electronic keyboard or cheesy synth workstation. Very sequenced, quantized, and mechanical.
Maybe a naked man in a field playing the lute would suit you better?
Dude....that's just gross.....I don't swing that way, but thanks for the offer. :roll:
Quote from: "Arenarec"Quote from: "danofmayz"QuoteI for one am hoping and praying influences of The Losers don't creep too far in. From what I have heard of The Losers, it is completely void of soul and musicality......much of it sounds like those demo songs you hear in any consumer electronic keyboard or cheesy synth workstation. Very sequenced, quantized, and mechanical.
Maybe a naked man in a field playing the lute would suit you better?
Dude....that's just gross.....I don't swing that way, but thanks for the offer. :roll:
Sorry, don't follow: independent of anyone's sexuality, why is the image of a naked man in a field playing a lute gross? If anything, it's funny. In fact, couldn't be more prog ... 8-)
Quote from: "Trapezium Artist"Quote from: "Arenarec"Quote from: "danofmayz"QuoteI for one am hoping and praying influences of The Losers don't creep too far in. From what I have heard of The Losers, it is completely void of soul and musicality......much of it sounds like those demo songs you hear in any consumer electronic keyboard or cheesy synth workstation. Very sequenced, quantized, and mechanical.
Maybe a naked man in a field playing the lute would suit you better?
Dude....that's just gross.....I don't swing that way, but thanks for the offer. :roll:
Sorry, don't follow: independent of anyone's sexuality, why is the image of a naked man in a field playing a lute gross? If anything, it's funny. In fact, couldn't be more prog ... 8-)
I'm glad someone got the joke! :)
Quote from: "danofmayz"Quote from: "Trapezium Artist"Quote from: "Arenarec"Quote from: "danofmayz"QuoteI for one am hoping and praying influences of The Losers don't creep too far in. From what I have heard of The Losers, it is completely void of soul and musicality......much of it sounds like those demo songs you hear in any consumer electronic keyboard or cheesy synth workstation. Very sequenced, quantized, and mechanical.
Maybe a naked man in a field playing the lute would suit you better?
Dude....that's just gross.....I don't swing that way, but thanks for the offer. :roll:
Sorry, don't follow: independent of anyone's sexuality, why is the image of a naked man in a field playing a lute gross? If anything, it's funny. In fact, couldn't be more prog ... 8-)
I'm glad someone got the joke! :)
Yeah, I though it was very obvious it was supposed to read "flute"
HEH
Quote from: "Arenarec"If Rush suddenly had Mandolins and Banjos on a record, it many ways it would cease to be Rush and would attract a completely different audience.
There's a mandolin on
The Main Monkey Business from Snakes And Arrows, isn't there? Mandolins sound great. And it may not be Rush, but there's a banjo on the last Big Big Train EP on
Master Of Time. That's something I really do like about progressive music - no restrictions with instrumentation! :D
Quote from: "Mouse"Quote from: "Arenarec"If Rush suddenly had Mandolins and Banjos on a record, it many ways it would cease to be Rush and would attract a completely different audience.
There's a mandolin on The Main Monkey Business from Snakes And Arrows, isn't there? Mandolins sound great. And it may not be Rush, but there's a banjo on the last Big Big Train EP on Master Of Time. That's something I really do like about progressive music - no restrictions with instrumentation! :D
Not forgetting the section from Trains by Porcupine Tree ;)
Many a folky instrument in there...
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Maybe a naked man in a field playing the lute would suit you better?[/quote]
Depending on the man, it might have to be an archlute...
But a Frost* album imbued with the melancholy of John Dowland would be a genuinely surprising progression :lol:
Hmm, now I think about it - prog rock inspired by Dowland's Lachrimae might not be all that bad...
David
I think the new album should be doom metal.
Can you do that with no hair?
Quote from: "owen"Can you do that with no hair?
Absolutely not! Also, Jem is not Scandinavian.
Quote from: "danofmayz"Quote from: "owen"Can you do that with no hair?
Absolutely not! Also, Jem is not Scandinavian.
I dunno: I've always thought of him as Jåm Gødfröy.
Quote from: "Trapezium Artist"Quote from: "danofmayz"Quote from: "owen"Can you do that with no hair?
Absolutely not! Also, Jem is not Scandinavian.
I dunno: I've always thought of him as Jåm Gødfröy.
:lol:
If they were Norwegian they could also go black metal. Preferably with makeup.
What about:
Jens Godli
John Mikkelsen
Nathaniel Kvinge
Klaus Blindheim
Klaus Blindheim. Brilliant. :lol:
all HEH
I think Jem's blogging has hinted at something that crosses into genres possibly less well known to us...
I'm thinking:
Speed Polka, maybe with some Psy-Assyrian/Syriac a smattering of Min'y? death funk, perhaps with a some Progressive Tejano influences in there.
What happened to the lewd man sitting with a newt ?
I'm not sure I got that quite right.
Quote from: "MarkOneMusic"I think Jem's blogging has hinted at something that crosses into genres possibly less well known to us...
I'm thinking:
Speed Polka, maybe with some Psy-Assyrian/Syriac a smattering of Min'y? death funk, perhaps with a some Progressive Tejano influences in there.
:lol: :lol:
Quote from: "MarkOneMusic"I think Jem's blogging has hinted at something that crosses into genres possibly less well known to us...
I'm thinking:
Speed Polka, maybe with some Psy-Assyrian/Syriac a smattering of Min'y? death funk, perhaps with a some Progressive Tejano influences in there.
Don forget some jazz drumming ala blunders style. ;)
Quote from: "turbo"Quote from: "MarkOneMusic"I think Jem's blogging has hinted at something that crosses into genres possibly less well known to us...
I'm thinking:
Speed Polka, maybe with some Psy-Assyrian/Syriac a smattering of Min'y? death funk, perhaps with a some Progressive Tejano influences in there.
Don forget some jazz drumming ala blunders style. ;)
Nah... Too mainstream. :lol:
Pretty much fruitless trying to have a coherent conversation with this bunch. You're all mad as a spoon!
Quote from: "Arenarec"Pretty much fruitless trying to have a coherent conversation with this bunch. You're all mad as a spoon!
Sththththpooooooooonzzzzz you say,
cue Pedro
I wasn't too sure of the EIMA line up and much prefer the Mitchell/Godfrey axis. Not knocking Mr Burke, hes a fine singer and musician, but live especially, I prefer the quartet line-up(s). I am sure there will be quite a few twists and turns on the new one. Prog=progress one hopes, but whatever the label, its all music.
not having seen them as a quartet, I can say they kicked ever-loving-ass at ROSFest as a fiver!
:D
The album direction will be 27 degrees north.
The real question is what velocity will the new album be. :P
I'd say....purple...mostly.
purple is my favorite number of the alphabet.
Purple is a fruit.
Or Violet?
Quote from: "Mouse"Purple is a fruit.
isnt that a bit homophobic :lol:
Quote from: "Pedro"I'd say....purple...mostly.
Purple, that'll make it sound like the new Arena album. That's fine by me :D :D :D :D
Maybe purple consuming bananas
Purple? Nah, Prince has already been there, done that!
What about the Color Gloputine? Just made up my own Color that Only I can See. So There yah have it!
Oh, Always Wondered What color is Banana? White, Yellow, Sometimes Brown? But Since Brown isnt the Prevailing color, would That be a fair assessment, or opinion, if You will? Im thinking Banana is White, and No Im not Racist! BUT, if You could actually eat the Skin of the Banana, Id be inclined to fall into the Yellow Camp.. All Apples are White. As are Pears, Coconuts, Plantains etc.. And here we seem to have another Quagmire... Why is a Plantain named as such? I think they should be called King Bananas.. BRB, Gotta write My Congressman after I refill the Toilet reservoir with Mini Marshmallows..
Quote from: "Mikey"Maybe purple consuming bananas
Quote from: "Jim Takacs"Im thinking Banana is White
Hope that doesn't make it a Pink album
Quote from: "Mikey"Quote from: "Mikey"Maybe purple consuming bananas
Quote from: "Jim Takacs"Im thinking Banana is White
Hope that doesn't make it a Pink album
Nah, That would make it a Lavender... Pastel Purple! no? :| At least it would Smell Nice!
I hope it's a photo album.
Quote from: "Jim Takacs"...All Apples are White...
Actually, Jim...
(//http://www.orangepippin.com/zimages/uploadedimages/standard/147266_05908508127746858657.jpg)
and (//http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/15/article-0-0A72D675000005DC-392_468x403.jpg)
Whilst most apples that we come across have white or cream flesh, a small number of varieties have red flesh or pink flesh. These unusual varieties share a number of characteristics and are mostly related to each other to some degree.
There are two strands to the genealogy of red-fleshed apples. It is thought that a crab apple called Niedzwetzkyana (the Manchurian Crab) from central Asia is the common ancestor. Varieties descended from Niedzwetzkyana tend to have the more extreme red characteristics.
The other strand of red-fleshed varieties derives from a breeding programme carried out by Albert Etter in northern California in the first half of the 20th century. Most of his apples were developed from a red-fleshed variety called Surprise which had been brought from Europe in the 19th century by German settlers in the Ohio River area. It too is probably descended from Niedzwetzkyana - but the Surprise apples tend to have less extreme red coloration.
The key characteristic is the flesh, which may be extensively or even entirely pink or dark red.
Quote from: "catherine"Quote from: "Jim Takacs"...All Apples are White...
Actually, Jim...
(//http://www.orangepippin.com/zimages/uploadedimages/standard/147266_05908508127746858657.jpg)
and (//http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/15/article-0-0A72D675000005DC-392_468x403.jpg)
Whilst most apples that we come across have white or cream flesh, a small number of varieties have red flesh or pink flesh. These unusual varieties share a number of characteristics and are mostly related to each other to some degree.
There are two strands to the genealogy of red-fleshed apples. It is thought that a crab apple called Niedzwetzkyana (the Manchurian Crab) from central Asia is the common ancestor. Varieties descended from Niedzwetzkyana tend to have the more extreme red characteristics.
The other strand of red-fleshed varieties derives from a breeding programme carried out by Albert Etter in northern California in the first half of the 20th century. Most of his apples were developed from a red-fleshed variety called Surprise which had been brought from Europe in the 19th century by German settlers in the Ohio River area. It too is probably descended from Niedzwetzkyana - but the Surprise apples tend to have less extreme red coloration.
The key characteristic is the flesh, which may be extensively or even entirely pink or dark red.
Witchcraft! :twisted:
Quote from: "Jim Takacs"Quote from: "Mikey"Quote from: "Mikey"Maybe purple consuming bananas
Quote from: "Jim Takacs"Im thinking Banana is White
Hope that doesn't make it a Pink album
Nah, That would make it a Lavender...
...dilly dilly...
Interesting Ideas on the colour of the new album...
I have Synesthesia, so I ACTUALLY wonder about these things when I hear about a new album coming up.
Related note: Magenta doesn't sound magenta. Interest!
Quote from: "RobRideout"Related note: Magenta doesn't sound magenta. Interest!
What should they be called?
Remember this coming up on QI
Quote from: "RobRideout"I have Synesthesia,
I can't see that word any more without thinking of this (//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfeyUGZt8nk).
Just out of curiosity, what colour is the word "synesthesia"?
Quote from: "RacingHippo"Quote from: "RobRideout"I have Synesthesia,
I can't see that word any more without thinking of this (//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfeyUGZt8nk).
Just out of curiosity, what colour is the word "synesthesia"?
Well, in your post it's black but in this post it's red. :mrgreen:
Behave Mr Hippo. :mrgreen:
Quote from: "johninblack"Quote from: "RacingHippo"Just out of curiosity, what colour is the word "synesthesia"?
Well, in your post it's black but in this post it's red. :mrgreen:
No it's not!
:twisted:
GreenBlackBluePinkGreyRed
It's brainf*** time! :twisted:
Quote from: "RacingHippo"I can't see that word any more without thinking of this (//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfeyUGZt8nk).
That's brilliant :D