Hopefully most people have now received their copies by now (sorry if you haven't but hopefully it won't be too much longer).
So, what do you think? Ashleaze wants to know....so let's tell her! :)
Live CDsBlimmin' marvellous! One of the best live recordings I've heard for a long, long time. The last time I was so struck by a "step improvement" in quality of a live recording was Rush's "Exit Stage Left". It's great to have a live version of the whole of the Milliontown CD.
Favourite tracks are :-
1) Milliontown itselfAs Wilf said in the Tinyfish forum, this is
the definitive live version.
I'd love to know who played "the oboe bit" having previously seen it done by :-
John Mitchell@ Rotherham(no clip sadly)
Andy Edwards@Summer's End (//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFfQLGIUonA) and
both John and Andy together @The Peel (//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP15U16GY2Q)
...I'm guessing it might have been John and NDV?
Anyway, here (//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoH42mSC0Wc&) is a rare clip of Milliontown from the TPE gig itself.
2) Snowman (Tenori-On version)Stunning.
3) The Other MeRawk! m/[/list]
The Dividing LineGreat to get a good quality version at last and also interesting to hear how it has subtly changed from the broadcast version. Really looking forward to hearing/seeing how this translates to the live setting. :)
DVDLoverly Frost* Report, as has been said, some of it has been seen before but that matters not. Just wish there was more of the gig itself.
The Surround Mix of TDL is brilliant - I think Rob Reed did a fantastic job with it. I think it is safe to confess I was lucky enough to be asked to give it a check-over ahead of release and it blew me away over the first several listens and still does. I really hope more Frost* stuff gets this treatment.
PackagingNice to have a proper double crystal case. The Digipak styling of other multi-disk things is ok but I prefer to have something that'll stand-up on its own on the shelf.
Love the artwork (that Vitamin P again! :) ) and it's great to have the proper words for The Dividing Line in there.
So, that's my blather out of the way....now let's have yours... :D
Dear Sarah,
I can't stop listening to it.
Wilf (not Pedder's) said on the TinyFish forum that the version of Miliontown is definitive.
I think he's right; but I'd go further; IMHO the entire album is definitive Frost* (at least so far). It deserves to be hooge.
And best of all, it's done without an ounce of up-arse bolloxness. Just great music, fantastically written, awesomely played and consummately produced. Album of the year, no question. And I'll march (singing the Intro to myself) on foot to Rotherham next January to see it awarded as such. :o
I was so moved, I also had to write a short blog about it. //http://gable-end.blogspot.com/2010/06/quickie.html
Quote
Agree with all that's been said. I do however, have a very minor gripe:
I guess it comes down to CD pressing problems again, but the CD seems to have CD-player-compatible named tracks on it (which is good) so when I stick it in my car stereo it tells me which song I'm listening to. Unfortunately, they seem to be named "track 1", "track 2" etc.
Well, lets start with the music - I'll go through the tracks we didn't already have.
The Forget You Song - I luuurve this version, lovely to hear the band so tight after so little rehearsal time!
Falling Down - The new intro works like a charm! Still of one of my favourites from EIMA, and this version is -as others have said - the definitive live version! The instrumental section sounds HUGE!!
Experiments In Mass Appeal - Quite possibly my favourite from the whole album, its AMAZING! Johnny Mitchell's solo is possibly even better than the live version (it proverbially melts the proverbial face), and what is that riff at the end! Wondreful.
Snowman - What more can be said? 10/10. The new bit at the end is B-E-A-Utiful.
Milliontown - Well, you can't argue with that, can you?! This version for some reason clicked with me much more so than the album version, I think I just got it!
The Other Me - The consummate gig closer. I can only hope that the crowd was singing along as much as I'd like to think they were! Nice to hear Uncle Jowitt at the start too :P
DVD - I LOVE FROST* REPORTS! I don't have a surround system, but I'm sure TDL is stonking too.
The packaging, as some have already said, is perfect, lovely to see a return to something more sturdy than digipaks.
I can't see me getting tired of listening to this any time soon. As one confident American said, 'I think we just got Frosted!'
:mrgreen:
It's utter rubbish, just like the rest of the distinctly below average output from the lesser Godfrey.
Hi A Sleaze
I think that it's one of the best live recordings that I have heard. Jem's comments through the concert are very interesting/ amusing. After a mere three play-throughs, my favorites are Milliontwon and The Other Me (yep - a foot stomping performance that one).
I'm also very much enjoying listening to the 5.1 version of TDL. I think that listening to Prog is so much better in 5.1 - there is just so much happening that it gives the music more space. Hopefully Jem will consider putting out other material in 5.1 (pretty please).
Hi James
The person who was executed by firing squad today in Utah - he was convicted of shooting a lawyer.
Quote from: "JamesA"It's utter rubbish, just like the rest of the distinctly below average output from the lesser Godfrey.
James, not everyone on here will be used to your wit :-)
Quote from: "Bert"Quote from: "JamesA"It's utter rubbish, just like the rest of the distinctly below average output from the lesser Godfrey.
James, not everyone on here will be used to your wit :-)
LOL
Yes, even the emoticons couldn't stick to it. ;)
So long as Jem is aware that you do really mean it I think we are in the clear.... :twisted:
In addition to my Milliontown comment, here's what I said in The Other Place:
QuoteWhat's not to like? It's nicely recorded, there's enough of the in-between chat to create a bit of atmosphere, and the performances are great.
Live albums are funny things - I think that Jem's done it the best way, which is to document a particular event, rather than create something which is an 'album in itself'. You wouldn't want to have just these recordings of Milliontown, Black Light Machine, Dear Dead Days etc., but you get a nice re-working of the songs in a different and very specific context.
God, don't I go
on?
Quote from: "Pedro"So long as Jem is aware that you do really mean it I think we are in the clear.... :twisted:
Well, even
he must get the message some time, surely ;)
Quote from: "amazingwilf"In addition to my Milliontown comment, here's what I said in The Other Place:
QuoteWhat's not to like? It's nicely recorded, there's enough of the in-between chat to create a bit of atmosphere, and the performances are great.
Live albums are funny things - I think that Jem's done it the best way, which is to document a particular event, rather than create something which is an 'album in itself'. You wouldn't want to have just these recordings of Milliontown, Black Light Machine, Dear Dead Days etc., but you get a nice re-working of the songs in a different and very specific context.
God, don't I go on?
Is gud.
well, I ain't got mine yet, as I'm across the pond, but I was there, and if I remember correctly, it was Nick that played the oboe. gonzo will correct me, if'n I'm wrong! 8-)
Quote from: "rogerg"well, I ain't got mine yet, as I'm across the pond, but I was there, and if I remember correctly, it was Nick that played the oboe. gonzo will correct me, if'n I'm wrong! 8-)
It'll definately be worth the wait, it's up there with Yessongs, Exit Stage Left, and Live Scenes From New York. Brilliant stuff!
Was it a real oboe, then? Not a clever keyboard sound?
I love that bit :mrgreen:
Keys. Watch the clips in the first post and imagine Nick instead of the others. ;)
Thank you my darlings :D
Quote from: "davejd"Quote from: "rogerg"well, I ain't got mine yet, as I'm across the pond, but I was there, and if I remember correctly, it was Nick that played the oboe. gonzo will correct me, if'n I'm wrong! 8-)
It'll definately be worth the wait, it's up there with Yessongs, Exit Stage Left, and Live Scenes From New York. Brilliant stuff!
Up there with Yessongs? no I don't think so.
Depends on what we are comparing, doesn't it? Audio quality?
Quote from: "keithd"Up there with Yessongs? no I don't think so.
Yeah... now you mention it, I've always been disappointed by Jem's lack of cape.
Quote from: "keithd"Quote from: "davejd"Quote from: "rogerg"well, I ain't got mine yet, as I'm across the pond, but I was there, and if I remember correctly, it was Nick that played the oboe. gonzo will correct me, if'n I'm wrong! 8-)
It'll definately be worth the wait, it's up there with Yessongs, Exit Stage Left, and Live Scenes From New York. Brilliant stuff!
Up there with Yessongs? no I don't think so.
No, I don't think it is quite that bad either.
@ JamesA - Oh there's just no stopping you now :roll:
Quote from: "davejd"Quote from: "rogerg"well, I ain't got mine yet, as I'm across the pond, but I was there, and if I remember correctly, it was Nick that played the oboe. gonzo will correct me, if'n I'm wrong! 8-)
It'll definately be worth the wait, it's up there with Yessongs, Exit Stage Left, and Live Scenes From New York. Brilliant stuff!
It's lovely that you say that mate, thank you. :D I tried to base it on things like Exit Stage Left, Seconds Out and Three Sides Live where I thought that excitement would override any occasional technical or musical slips.
Most of all though, I think it captures the vibe of the night where we all had a lot of fun and I think the band became a little bit better as a result. :D
Who is Ashleaze and why doesn't she have her own copy to listen to?! :o
Ashleaze (aka Sarah above) mentioned on the Tinyfish forum that she enjoyed reading other people's reviews of the album but we weren't saying much about it over here....I thought we should try to rectify that.
For future reference, Sarah is not the tallest of people and so can sometimes be seen near the front at gigs (if the freakishly tall and the lawyers with notebooks let here in). If you see her, ask to see her ID, she likes that.... ;)
(In-Joke from the Tinyfish forum, I make no apologies for it)
If you let her in she just blocks the bands from getting up on the stage :roll:
Got mine today! :)
Went straight for Milliontown........................
Wow....
I mean.... wow! :shock:
Speechless I am.
Well, not entirely. I all ready loved how the drums sounded on the earlier live EP and I'm glad that sound maintained on this double sides packages of utter brilliants. I mean, it all sounds great but I love how the fabulous drums skills of NDV are sonically present on these recordings. That's some fine mixing there Jem.
It was well worth the wait! :)
Got Home from Work, Ran To Mailbox, Opened the door and behold, a Dazzling Bright red Plastic Post bag from the Royal Mail! As I wiped the tear off my cheek, I ran into the house To find A POWER OUTAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil: !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hour later, after returning from the local Grocery store with Sushi, Jerky and a Proper Ale, Im Ready To plunge into the Frosty Goodness! Thanks You Jem!! :D Hold My calls!!!! Wife's out of town too, so I double Win!! Not A prog. Fan! But a HUGE Gabriel, Floyd fan! She's A keeper! Oh And She also Plays Keys and Knows Gear! Have I Ever mentioned the one time she.. oops :twisted:
Forgot to Mention the Breaking in Of the "Purveyors of Aural" T-shirts Maiden Voyage.... I was In said Grocery store Not 15 Min. When A young Punk-ass looking, uh, Punk, came up to me and said, "Rad Shirt Bro" After Duct Taping my Jaw back in place, I said,. You Like Frost?? This Douche Dick Replies, And I Shit You Not!!! Nah Dude, I Like Grey T-shirts!! :shock: I Then, Being Completely Plowed said, " Its Granite ass bag, NOT Grey!" He Then Says, " Thats A Gay Shirt" I Cant Type what i "wanted" To Say AND Do after That!!! Sorry For the Interruption...... Carry On!!! :twisted:
Hmm....newest member = Nick....well *that* would be really cool.... :)
Whoever you are Nick, welcome!
Quote from: "Jem"Quote from: "davejd"Quote from: "rogerg"well, I ain't got mine yet, as I'm across the pond, but I was there, and if I remember correctly, it was Nick that played the oboe. gonzo will correct me, if'n I'm wrong! 8-)
It'll definately be worth the wait, it's up there with Yessongs, Exit Stage Left, and Live Scenes From New York. Brilliant stuff!
It's lovely that you say that mate, thank you. :D I tried to base it on things like Exit Stage Left, Seconds Out and Three Sides Live where I thought that excitement would override any occasional technical or musical slips.
Most of all though, I think it captures the vibe of the night where we all had a lot of fun and I think the band became a little bit better as a result. :D
That's what I love about Frost gigs, the fun (and of course the music) :)
Quote from: "Pedro"Ashleaze (aka Sarah above) mentioned on the Tinyfish forum that she enjoyed reading other people's reviews of the album but we weren't saying much about it over here....I thought we should try to rectify that.
For future reference, Sarah is not the tallest of people and so can sometimes be seen near the front at gigs (if the freakishly tall and the lawyers with notebooks let here in). If you see her, ask to see her ID, she likes that.... ;)
(In-Joke from the Tinyfish forum, I make no apologies for it)
Quote from: "JamesA"If you let her in she just blocks the bands from getting up on the stage :roll:
I am reviewing my opinions of freakishly tall people and lawyers with notebooks....
Quote from: "Sarah"Quote from: "Pedro"Ashleaze (aka Sarah above) mentioned on the Tinyfish forum that she enjoyed reading other people's reviews of the album but we weren't saying much about it over here....I thought we should try to rectify that.
For future reference, Sarah is not the tallest of people and so can sometimes be seen near the front at gigs (if the freakishly tall and the lawyers with notebooks let here in). If you see her, ask to see her ID, she likes that.... ;)
(In-Joke from the Tinyfish forum, I make no apologies for it)
Quote from: "JamesA"If you let her in she just blocks the bands from getting up on the stage :roll:
I am reviewing my opinions of freakishly tall people and lawyers with notebooks....
Everyone's doing reviews these days, it seems (expect me...I just half do them and leave them to stew)
Moderators, would you keep an eye on JamesA, please? We don't want his wit going on another rampage... :roll:
The Philadelphia Experiment is one hell of a brilliant album. It showcases the band's fantastic music in a different environment, while also displaying the talent of each member on stage. As Bert said, this is definitive Frost*.
And I just love the drums! To me, they've been mixed so that they sound like we're listening to them as they're happening out of NDV's own face. :D
Quote from: "Jem"Quote from: "davejd"Quote from: "rogerg"well, I ain't got mine yet, as I'm across the pond, but I was there, and if I remember correctly, it was Nick that played the oboe. gonzo will correct me, if'n I'm wrong! 8-)
It'll definately be worth the wait, it's up there with Yessongs, Exit Stage Left, and Live Scenes From New York. Brilliant stuff!
It's lovely that you say that mate, thank you. :D I tried to base it on things like Exit Stage Left, Seconds Out and Three Sides Live where I thought that excitement would override any occasional technical or musical slips.
Most of all though, I think it captures the vibe of the night where we all had a lot of fun and I think the band became a little bit better as a result. :D
Amen.
I've said it elsewhere, but it's definitive Frost* (thus far) and devoid of all hyperbole, IS one of the best live albums I've ever heard.
The proper CD version of The Dividing Line also confirms my suspicion that it is the best thing Frost* have ever come out with. That's the definitive song so far, in my opinionated onions. BLM's still my favourite, but TDL is the best. 8-)
Quote from: "Mouse"The proper CD version of The Dividing Line also confirms my suspicion that it is the best thing Frost* have ever come out with. That's the definitive song so far, in my opinionated onions. BLM's still my favourite, but TDL is the best. 8-)
Never mind the CD version the 5.1 remix is just brilliant stuff the way jems keyboards move from speaker to speaker just blows my mind, by far the best thing frost have ever done and thats quite some statement considering what has come before it. :D
Boy, Last Night was the Ultimate Frost Evening for me! After Completely Enjoying the Documentary and extras I Fired up Disk one!! This is Absolutely THE BEST live Album I Have ever heard! As Some before posted that It Highlights the Sheer Talent of these Gentlemen is a Massive understatement! This May Sound strange to some but Im sure others will agree, but While watching and listening I felt as if I was listening to a Good friends Band! What Jem has Created With the Frost Reports, Forum and Just showing us Himself and the Band in the was he has Is VERY Rare and Unique! I Get So Incredibly Frustrated When I Think about how Insanely Huge they would be here in the states. Every Single person I turn on to them are Immediately Obsessed! Then Again the majority of people I talk with or are friends are musicians! How about a Live DVD of this show?? :P This Will Go Down as One of he Greatest Live recordings in History! Someday! :(
For me this album goes nicely along with Seconds out and Livefields in my top-3 live albums list. Falling down works really well in a live setting and The other me is just 7 minutes of rawking bliss 8-) .
Well, looks like it came yesterday. Not bad at all, considering I ordered it early Monday morning and am in Minnesota... I am currently putting it on my computer with much anticipation.
Quote from: "brakkum"Well, looks like it came yesterday. Not bad at all, considering I ordered it early Monday morning and am in Minnesota... I am currently putting it on my computer with much anticipation.
:shock:
i've not heard it/seen any of it yet. I havent even managed to get round to TDL after a hurried first listen. I need to go flagellate myself with birch rods. :oops:
Finally removed constant loops of Lunar Jim and gained access to my 5.1 rig this morning to listen to the surround mix of TDL today. Awesome !
Many moons ago, not on this forum, or even the last forum, but the forum before that ( :shock: ) I asked Jem whether he'd ever considered doing 5.1 mixes of Milliontown (at the time). I'm a big fan of them, have got all the P Tree, Genesis ones etc etc.
Anyway, his reply was fairly non-committal and he had no plans to do any mixes, but ended on the lines of "never say never" or something like that.
And now !!! :o As far I'm concerned, I'm taking full credit of planting the 5.1 seed in Jem's mind all those years ago, which has been burrowing it's way through his sub-conscious mind until it's glorious fruition with TDL. :D
There's no need to rush and thank me ;) :D
Well I'll thank you whether or not it was you!
While I'm at it I'll thank Rob Reed a little bit more for the use of his kit. :)
Quote from: "Pedro"Well I'll thank you whether or not it was you!
While I'm at it I'll thank Rob Reed a little bit more for the use of his kit. :)
I agree !! :D
Quote from: "rogerg"Quote from: "brakkum"Well, looks like it came yesterday. Not bad at all, considering I ordered it early Monday morning and am in Minnesota... I am currently putting it on my computer with much anticipation.
:shock:
:shock: :shock:
I have to say that I think these recordings are brilliant.... I prefer these to the studio versions. I think it's the energy that brings the songs to life more. Love the drumming as well... I've always been a fan of NDV anyway and this is a great example of his playing quality!!!!
The mix is great and the playing is superb.... Can't wait to see them in December!!!!! ;)
Watched the DVD this morning while on the morning commute. Not a good idea. Laughed out loud too many times to count and am now expecting my fellow commuters to spread their bags over their already occupied double seats when I approach in future. Oh well...
Had a small revalation though with the 5.1 TDL mix. Haven't played it through the amp at home yet (embarrased to say the rest of the family aren't quite as enthusiastic about prog as myself - except my four year old who thinks "The Man with the 2.4" is the funniest thing he's ever heard) - but listened to it with a laptop and headphones after watching the DVD and heard all sorts of things I'd not picked out before by listening to the stereo mix.
I watched the DVD on Thursday night .. chuckling away to myself (the part where Jem is asking daft questions in rehearsal), I turned around to see my wife looking at me as if to say "what the hell is this ?" ... I discovered that there is no point in explaining anything to ones' spouse .. it wont make it funnier .. I love it though :D
The price of the package was worth it for the T shirt and The Dividing Line alone .. I haven't even listened to the live CD yet as I previously bought the taster cd at a gig .. I have that to look forward to.
In summary ... fantabulous !
Finally gave it all a listen, love it! sounds great, and seems like a great gig. The DVD is of course fantastic, there might as well be a Frost* Report movie now, seeing as I can't get enough.
Quote from: "Dave M"The price of the package was worth it for the T shirt and The Dividing Line alone .. I haven't even listened to the live CD yet as I previously bought the taster cd at a gig .. I have that to look forward to.
In summary ... fantabulous !
Agreed, the T-shirt and TDL made this a must-have purchase.
But don't dismiss the live set 'cos you've got the Frost*fest taster: this is... well, just incredible... I can't begin to imagine the tweakery that must have gone into making such a perfect live recording.
Just how much of this was actually played live and how much is studio magic?? Either way it sounds fantastic - you can't see the join. :shock:
rock, rock, Mexican rock!!!
just watched the videos, which were especially great, since we were there! listening now to TDL, and I can't wait to put in the cds while we drive to Iowa this week!
RAWK!!
I've just realised I haven't yet waxed lyrical on this thread.
Um.
*gathers thoughts*
It really is rather jolly spiffing.
Yeaaaahhhh... the Living-adelphia household has been rocking to this all week long.
Absolutely superb.
And the 5.1 mix of The Dividing Line demonstrated that I need to move my rear surround speakers back a bit - I couldn't hear Tara at all during her little section! :D
What a package..this live cd is fantastic
why do I always order a bloody large t-shirt and its too tight...middle age spread me thinks
oh well another t-shirt passed to junior.,,
great work Jem...
I got the large and it's nicely snug. XLs are usually really baggy on me, so it's unusual to have a well-fitting TShirt bought sight unseen. Not just middle age spread, methinks; I'm only quarter-aged! :)
Well, after listening to TPE a couple of times, I can tell you something... I usually don't really like live albums. I don't really know why, maybe it's just because I know many bands post-process the recording, making it a non-truthful representation of the band playing live. However, I am happy to report that I am truthfully enjoying this album. It sounds honest.
And WOW, Nick's performance on the drums is astounding, mostly considering how little time he had to learn the songs!!! Overall excellent musicianship, sound quality, and I'm also enjoying the alternate version of songs or parts of songs. And The Dividing Line..... WOAAAAHHH!!! :D
One other thing I'd like to add, which made me enjoy this experience even more. The first thing I did is watch the documentary, which was nice and fun. I like how we see the band just before the show, and then it's "how we got to that point"... and It ends where it started, just before the show begins. Then I listened to the live CD, and it was such a nice follow up to the documentary. I think everyone should do it in this order. The only thing that would have been even better, is to watch the concert on DVD instead of listening to the CD, after watching the documentary.
Thank you Frost*!
I haven't had a chance to listen all the way through but I can easily say that I love it!
I popped the DVD in right away and loved every minute of the Frost report especially
the stuff with Jordan and when the entire band is together for rehearsals.
I've only heard half of the first cd, but it's pretty much a given that I love the entire set.
I like the changes to Falling Down and the mix sounds huge and superb. I also love the
packaging with the clear double thick case. It makes it much more substantial and solid.
(not that Digipacks are bad either btw)
*****
I need to know:
just who is Hans; and does he have a habit of letting Jem down?
;)
:D
I love that bit
Hello ladies and gentlemen. . . . . first post on here. . . . .
been loitering for some time and thought. . . . . well, what the heck, they can't all be totally cuckoo!
I've found one major drawback with the album. . . . . the tri- jewelical cd case makes it impossible to hide from the missus, resulting in large doses of pilfering (good job I ordered an XXL t-shirt rendering it too small to get over her head!).
Hi Paul,
Welcome to the board! :)
You're right, not totally cuckoo....there's some Nuthatch in there somewhere! :D
Yes! Twas indeed Spock's loaner on the oboe bit. Sorry for my late response. I only just now got 'round to reading this thread.
Echoing some other comments, I generally do NOT like live albums. I can probably count the ones I own on my fingers. My favorite live album ever is "Seconds Out", so nice to see Jem mention that one. Rush is always brilliant live. "Exit..." is a classic, of course, though I really like "A Show of Hands."
"The Philadelphia Experiment" is absolutely right up there with them. Top drawer!
I remember reading somewhere that a very substantial amount of Exit was rerecorded in the studio beacuse the band weren't happy with it and once they started tinkering with the recordings it was hard to stop. They decided on the show of hands cd they wouldn't do that again but would cut and paste bits from other performances to create a corrected version. How much of it they did i don't know.
KISS - Alive is a great live album.
Is that the KISS album with this (//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf79MCuQ8jM) on it?
;)
I listened to it on the plane on the way to Singapore and on the way back again. It's great, and distracted me from the numb-bum syndrome brought about by sitting in an economy class seat for 13 1/2 hours very nicely indeed. I still have the DVD to watch - that will be a treat to come once I can actually book myself some time in front of the telly when the husband isn't catching up with all the World Cup action that he missed.
I wore my Philly Expt. T-shirt for the first time last night. A waitress in DC made a comment - "Why have you got a T shirt of the US flag on a Canadian Maple Leaf?" This of course invoked some explanation from Yours Truly - however, I don't think we have gained a fan as a result.
I'll keep trying. ;)
Like some have said before, I don't like live albums that much, I prefer DVDs. But this one sounds so good and is very well played. Very enjoyable to listen to. Milliontown is just epic live.
And of course, I'm a Frost* Report junkie. The documentary is brilliant, as always. A good mix of geeky musician stuff and silly humour. So Jem, if you quit making albums, please keep making videos. :mrgreen:
Where to start?
Hmmm...
Well, first off, the album came super quick from chew valley to weston-upon-mud in time to be a Father's Day gift from our two tortoises (It's amazing that they can work the internet, and their claws do scratch the shiny mac keyboard a bit, bless 'em.)
So I had a thoroughly lovely time playing this very loud with the patio door wide open (in my ongoing mission to educate the neighbours in the ways of prog)
The recording is great. I have a whopping big REL sub-woofer that so often remains all but silent where commercial stuff is rolled off below around 45Hz, and it was nice to discover there is a world of sub-bass on this release. Nick's kick moves some major air.
I smiled at the guy shouting "We've just been Frosted!" after BLM
Highlight - Milliontown. Brilliant. And Jem's "Hands, don't fail me now"
All in all a great live album...
Dearest Ashleaze- I live in Maryland USA, got my t-shirt and CD/DVD set. I have not stopped grinning since.... :) I wore the t-shirt until I stank, I mean it stank, and finally have threatened to wash it soon. I have played the CD's everyday going to work, at work, and coming home. Seconds Out has been my favorite live performance ever until now. When I first bought that album, the cover alone sent shivers down my spine. Once I played it, I wore it out, replaying it over and over again. Now, with this delightful surprise, I have found there is no music outside of Frost* live. The recording is superb. The performance is outstanding and brilliant. The feeling of being an intimate part of it, having watched the original Frost reports as they came out, and then again with this release, I laughed like a madman, hysterically no less at times, in a high pitched, tight jockey brief sort of way, and can still not refrain from looking upon all boxes of cereal with a glee un-before imagined! The packaging, the shirt, the quick delivery, and the memorable job done by Jem and the boys is well beyond my humble expectations of brilliance again, and now I ponder if I should simply not just send Jem more money.... I do believe he earned it! :) Thank you for such a wonderful and fantastic package, it truly did make my Father's Day! :)
Dearest Jem- I think I owe you some pittance of cash... I would send my first born, but it looks like you have a tribe of your own already sprouting about you! I have told more than a few good friends and avid music lovers/musicians, that I believe you to be the most talented and brilliant composer/performer of my lifetime. And then you release this lovely package, and I am now at a loss of how to explain you. :) I can't stop listening to TDL, I almost quiver to say this, but I think it might be my favorite Frost* song. I thunders, it rocks, it squawks with estrogen screams. Dear Lord good man, it has so much within it, and it can and does demand replay, over and over again. I truly wonder if I can stand waiting for any crumbs you might throw our way, just salivating over more more more! The new bottom end of Frost* just sent tingles to the most delicate places and lo, I was hard!! to keep that grin off my mug, as I pondered a sonic overture that sheared through all lethargy from the day and thrummed my very primal YEAH yell loudly to the Universe, screaming I LOVE THIS BAND!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
Please, continue to unleash thy torrent, as I ponder multiple subwoofers and stapled egg cartons on the inner roof of my car.... :)
Tony Geron
Welcome to the forum tony :D
Now THAT is what you call a first post. ;)
Welcome aboard. :)
Yep, as first posts go, that one takes the biscuit.
Speaking of which, what's your preference?
Welcome, Tony! Yes, that post sums it up well!
:shock: I don't think I've ever strung that many words together in a row in my whole life!
Welcome to the Frost*iverse! :mrgreen:
welcome, Tony! and what an appropriate name for a Frost*y!! it's GRRRREEEEAT!
now come back.
Quote from: "geront"Dearest Ashleaze- I live in Maryland USA, got my t-shirt and CD/DVD set. I have not stopped grinning since.... :) I wore the t-shirt until I stank, I mean it stank, and finally have threatened to wash it soon. I have played the CD's everyday going to work, at work, and coming home. Seconds Out has been my favorite live performance ever until now. When I first bought that album, the cover alone sent shivers down my spine. Once I played it, I wore it out, replaying it over and over again. Now, with this delightful surprise, I have found there is no music outside of Frost* live. The recording is superb. The performance is outstanding and brilliant. The feeling of being an intimate part of it, having watched the original Frost reports as they came out, and then again with this release, I laughed like a madman, hysterically no less at times, in a high pitched, tight jockey brief sort of way, and can still not refrain from looking upon all boxes of cereal with a glee un-before imagined! The packaging, the shirt, the quick delivery, and the memorable job done by Jem and the boys is well beyond my humble expectations of brilliance again, and now I ponder if I should simply not just send Jem more money.... I do believe he earned it! :) Thank you for such a wonderful and fantastic package, it truly did make my Father's Day! :)
Dearest Jem- I think I owe you some pittance of cash... I would send my first born, but it looks like you have a tribe of your own already sprouting about you! I have told more than a few good friends and avid music lovers/musicians, that I believe you to be the most talented and brilliant composer/performer of my lifetime. And then you release this lovely package, and I am now at a loss of how to explain you. :) I can't stop listening to TDL, I almost quiver to say this, but I think it might be my favorite Frost* song. I thunders, it rocks, it squawks with estrogen screams. Dear Lord good man, it has so much within it, and it can and does demand replay, over and over again. I truly wonder if I can stand waiting for any crumbs you might throw our way, just salivating over more more more! The new bottom end of Frost* just sent tingles to the most delicate places and lo, I was hard!! to keep that grin off my mug, as I pondered a sonic overture that sheared through all lethargy from the day and thrummed my very primal YEAH yell loudly to the Universe, screaming I LOVE THIS BAND!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
Please, continue to unleash thy torrent, as I ponder multiple subwoofers and stapled egg cartons on the inner roof of my car.... :)
Tony Geron
Now that is without doubt a marvellous first post and I heartily recommend it to be Post of The Week. :D
Welcome to the forum Tony.
A very fond THANK YOU to all!!!! :) Truly a pleasure to be here! And please forgive the never ending words, I do have a rather boisterous desire to share at times... LOL
Ah, I truly wish I could find the words to honestly convey just how absurdly gone I am at the moment of this writing... for YES, I am still listening to my Frost* live here at work!!!! LMAO. I've thrice attempted to kick my very own arse for MISSING TPE live and in person last year, so freakin' close to me and I couldn't make it there. Never, ever, again. I will sell said children and all other non Frost* goodies henceforth to make that happen! Fanatic? YES!!!! Willing to enter voluntary enslavement at this point? Absolutely. :)
I do so love this forum as well. Read last night till my eyes bled blue, was seeing floating unicorns with fiery red tails, leaping gaily over very dead and oil soaked Croaker fish near the end, and wondered had I read that in some post or had my mind finally snapped like the brittle twig it has been often mentioned as resembling.... :) As it stands, I must satisfy myself now to simply volunteer to be the US Ambassador for our divine Frost*, and promise to uphold the Frostie Indecency Policy (FIP)... (I promise to learn just what a biscuit is, why I want to be one, and which one is the very best to choose from, all while not using said biscuits to harm any animals or bake with controlled substances within!! -- Cheers!!!)
Ugh, back to earning my pay with some work for the people that I've fooled into thinking me an inspired lad... :)
Hugs, back slaps, boot stomping and cowbells to All!
Tony Geron
I want some of what he's having!
:D Hi Tony
Quote from: "geront"I promise to learn just what a biscuit is, why I want to be one, and which one is the very best to choose from, all while not using said biscuits to harm any animals or bake with controlled substances within!!
All you need to know about biscuits, biscuitry and the taking up the mantle of biscuithood can be found right here (//http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com/biscuits/) (together with tea, cake and the Answer to Life, the Universe and Everything).
Hi Geront!
Wow! Thank you for telling me what you think in such a splendid way!
Hi geront!
I'm from maryland, too. Let's get super drunk and put milliontown on repeat while breaking glass with our bare hands.
i'd like to announce that i like Geront.
oops wrong thread!
Dear Dead Days, I've joined this online forum that has, to say the least, a wondrous group of like minded souls, all a smitten with thine Frost. Ah, my palms have itched, my fingers a twitch, longing to be back amongst you! :) So yes Paul, you may. lol (Under Universal Law U9927114.14, it is permissible to digest naughty draft or stem, should circumstance dictate. Reference Hologram suppression Index FROST*).
Obviously the above referenced law is in FULL usage and effect! A warm smile and gentle bow to you all. :) I actually had joined the old Frost forum days prior to it going down, and may have posted once or twice, so in total honesty, an almost newbie!
I'm now guessing the sacredly referenced biscuits are simply NOT what I get at the local Popeye's Chicken and Biscuits? There is something better? Certainly not. Unthinkable. Of course you would never dunk them in anything either, me thinks, when the one hand jam into the mouth will either choke you to death, or give you instant buttery delight. Honorable mention goes to the local American Grill's Ozzie Rolls!!!! Like a round donut/dough that is quick fried then served hot with whipped butter sprinkled with poppy seeds, and an ever handy bottle of honey. Pure bliss and guaranteed to do bad things to arteries and loved ones.
I'm glad you can't hear me sing, while I Frost away. It's actually not too bad to my own humble ears, but that one close but definitely off lyric or note can be classic and viscerally horrid all at the same time. Was actually doing some singing out loud this evening on my way home, with window down no less, and lots of surrounding traffic. I couldn't help myself. And no one threw stones! And no one threw stones.... Perhaps the congestive noise index exceed thy lung capacity?? I think NOT! It was a frozen moment of divine magnitude, no less, that my angelic voice carried above and through, yes through, all congestive noise, and for one single moment, I FROSTED them all!!!! HA!!! Buggers! :) I secretly implanted an etheric blueprint overlay, now giving them good musical taste! It was the least I could do, I modestly must say. Naturally, they will all now flock to Frost, and Sir Jem. :)
I love Planet Frost. I'm never leaving. Ever. You may see a cloud of smoke above my stead, but never fear, I'm a water sign, so I got that going for me... :)
What ho! Tally Ho!! And Cheers!!!!!
Tony Geron
cookies, dude.
Never mind that, did you know that a 'biscuit joiner' is not a newbie on the Frost* forum at all? Sometimes also known as a 'plate joiner' (biscuits? plates? Getting hungry!), a biscuit joiner is a woodworking tool used to join two pieces of wood together. A biscuit joiner uses a small 100mm (4") diameter tungsten carbide tipped circular saw blade to cut a crescent shaped hole (called the mouth) in the opposite edges of two pieces of wood or wood composite panels. An oval-shaped, highly-dried and compressed wooden biscuit (usually beech) is covered with glue, or glue is applied in the slot. The biscuit is immediately placed in the slot, and the two boards are clamped together. The wet glue expands the biscuit, further improving a bond that is often stronger than the wood itself.
Waste of good biscuits if you ask me.
Quote from: "Pedro"Never mind that, did you know that a 'biscuit joiner' is not a newbie on the Frost* forum at all? Sometimes also known as a 'plate joiner' (biscuits? plates? Getting hungry!), a biscuit joiner is a woodworking tool used to join two pieces of wood together. A biscuit joiner uses a small 100mm (4") diameter tungsten carbide tipped circular saw blade to cut a crescent shaped hole (called the mouth) in the opposite edges of two pieces of wood or wood composite panels. An oval-shaped, highly-dried and compressed wooden biscuit (usually beech) is covered with glue, or glue is applied in the slot. The biscuit is immediately placed in the slot, and the two boards are clamped together. The wet glue expands the biscuit, further improving a bond that is often stronger than the wood itself.
Would it be a particularly sad admission, if I said I actually have one of these?
Quote from: "MarkOneMusic"Quote from: "Pedro"Never mind that, did you know that a 'biscuit joiner' is not a newbie on the Frost* forum at all? Sometimes also known as a 'plate joiner' (biscuits? plates? Getting hungry!), a biscuit joiner is a woodworking tool used to join two pieces of wood together. A biscuit joiner uses a small 100mm (4") diameter tungsten carbide tipped circular saw blade to cut a crescent shaped hole (called the mouth) in the opposite edges of two pieces of wood or wood composite panels. An oval-shaped, highly-dried and compressed wooden biscuit (usually beech) is covered with glue, or glue is applied in the slot. The biscuit is immediately placed in the slot, and the two boards are clamped together. The wet glue expands the biscuit, further improving a bond that is often stronger than the wood itself.
Would it be a particularly sad admission, if I said I actually have one of these?
Not at all...unless the things you make with it are not entirely edible....
;)
Quote from: "geront"I'm now guessing the sacredly referenced biscuits are simply NOT what I get at the local Popeye's Chicken and Biscuits?
Using the Pond Translator:
biscuits (UK) = cookies (US)
chips (UK) = fries (US)
crisps (UK) = chips (US)
The typical tea biscuit tends to be similar in flavor and consistency to a Vienna finger. Some are like those crappy Stella Doro things grandma used to set out on Sundays, while others are like snack cakes (Tunnock's makes something akin to a moon pie).
Ironically, Jem's not big on biscuits. :?
Quote from: "Pedro"Quote from: "MarkOneMusic"Would it be a particularly sad admission, if I said I actually have one of these?
Not at all...unless the things you make with it are not entirely edible....
;)
Make? MAKE? No, no, it's just another shiney power tool I couldn't resist when it was on sale in Wickes. It sits there proud in its impact resistant carry case alongside other such wonders like the belt sander, the angled drill, the SDS hammer...
I know, I know...
Quote from: "MarkOneMusic"Quote from: "Pedro"Quote from: "MarkOneMusic"Would it be a particularly sad admission, if I said I actually have one of these?
Not at all...unless the things you make with it are not entirely edible....
;)
Make? MAKE? No, no, it's just another shiney power tool I couldn't resist when it was on sale in Wickes. It sits there proud in its impact resistant carry case alongside other such wonders like the belt sander, the angled drill, the SDS hammer...
I know, I know...
Mmmmmmmmmmm,P O W E R T O O O O L S...........
Did you know that H.P.Lovecraft met a mad arab named Ali Ben Bourbon who as legend has it, wrote a book about the sacred mystic biscuit and called it the PeakFreanicon?
Quote from: "MarkOneMusic"...the belt sander, the angled drill, the SDS hammer...
I find my SDS hammer really useful actually.
About once a year.
But it does look great when brandished Tommy-gun style with a 300mm half-inch bit in it :mrgreen:
Just got mine.
Awesomeness defined. Thanks *
http://www.dprp.net/reviews/201040.php#frost (http://www.dprp.net/reviews/201040.php#frost)
Quote from: "buckdharma"http://www.dprp.net/reviews/201040.php#frost
finally, someone who understand Frost*.
Quote from: "rogerg"Quote from: "buckdharma"http://www.dprp.net/reviews/201040.php#frost
finally, someone who understand Frost*.
A most frostie review indeed! Well deserved lads :)
Dashed fine review and surely absolutely right, despite the fact I haven't even had time to listen to TPE yet, what with me holidays 'n' all that 8-)
Now I'm home, I shall be savouring it like a fine wine. Which means drinking much and often.
Indeed - a fine, accurate and very amusing review. Loved the line "First there's the best, and funniest, introduction to a gig you're ever likely to hear. So funny in fact that when I first heard it a little bit of wee came out." :lol:
And yet he only gave it 10 out of 10!
Excellent review! It was a joy to read. :)
to be honest, I thought he was a bit on the fence... :lol:
Well... I have had it sitting on my desk for a weeks already (bought it in the shop ... yes, there are still shops that actually stock things like this and I do my best to support at least one of them on a regular basis) but never got around listening to it.
Just finished listening to Disc 1 and here is the result of the Dutch jury: FREAKING AWESOME !!! I love it, love it, love it, love it. NDV's drums sound glorious, the different arrangement of Falling Down is stupendous, Snowman (Tenori-On) is breathtaking (is there a spot where I can hear the Esoteric Evening version?) and I had goosebumps during the guitarsolo in Saline.
OK, off to disc two but limiting myself to the livetracks.... TDL has to wait to maybe later in the evening.
Also stunned about NDV's drumming. I mean, there can't have been many rehearsals, right?
I knew he is awesome and here's another proof.
So, just finished listening to disc 2 and although I had other plans I just had to listen to it all the way through incl. TDL.
Milliontown: excellent performance. I don't know if it was intentional but when you listen to it on headphones the aural perspective seems to be that YOU are sitting on NDV's drumstool. The drums pan nicely around your head and well, it almost sounds like a Frostie wanna-be-a-Frost-drummer wet dream :shock:
How many people were playing keyboards during the oboe bit? Oh and I have to give a shout out to JJ for some pretty nifty bassplaying. I actually got to hear him now on this recording and it got me wondering (again) how much 'real' bassguitar by JJ is there on the whole Milliontown album?
The Other Me: I love the electro-fied beginning they use here very fitting since that synth riff tips it hat to Gary Numan quite obviously.
TDL: were to begin with that one? Well, first I really like the sound of the drums on this tune and Andy is playing his usual socks off on it. The first section of the song has this swagger that is almost glamrock like. But as always with Frost things I keep wondering: how much are all the other musicians actually doing? I am just wondering how much bass by Nathan is actually on this tune.
I am glad that I waited the last few weeks with listening to this whole set because I was very much in an oldies vibe and somehow the full-on assault of Frost* just didn't fit that mood. But as a Grand Opening for the weekend this was just what the doctor ordered.
Consider myself blown away by TPE !!! :D
Everything sounds exceptional to my ears, but the drums especially. In the grand Frost* tradition, Nick very ably handled oboe duties. He also delivered big time backing vocals. Suffice it to say NDV did more than a smashing job.
Quote from: "gr8gonzo"Everything sounds exceptional to my ears, but the drums especially. In the grand Frost* tradition, Nick very ably handled oboe duties. He also delivered big time backing vocals. Suffice it to say NDV did more than a smashing job.
And was there the traditional man-love bit at the end of the oboe solo? Or was that watered down to be more in keeping with a US audience's sensibilities?
IIRC, platonic man hug, no tongue.
Quote from: "gr8gonzo"IIRC, platonic man hug, no tongue.
No tongue, that's unusual. :twisted:
Whoever mixed this thing did a flippin amazing job on those toms. During Hyperventilate I noticed by bunghole widening every time that floor tom was struck.
Jem mixed it. :)
Quote from: "AndreasK"Whoever mixed this thing did a flippin amazing job on those toms. During Hyperventilate I noticed by bunghole widening every time that floor tom was struck.
now, that's one you don't hear very often.
(oh! this was my 1976 post!!!)
Well, in THAT case....
Jem, can you spare any quick tips on getting toms to widen the anuses of listeners? :)
:? :o :shock:
Quote from: "catherine":? :o :shock:
Be calm, Catherine. Even I can't begin to believe that that means what it looks like it means. Surely not. Please.
After all, the previous few posts in this thread also mentioned platonic man-love without tongues, and we seriously don't want to be mixing things up and getting confused now, do we?
Speaking of man love, what the hell is Andreas' avatar picture or do I not want to know?
Quote from: "gr8gonzo"Speaking of man love, what the hell is Andreas' avatar picture or do I not want to know?
I wasn't going to ask.... :shock:
That tale is one of wonder, enchantment and hours of googling for things people shouldn't be googling for.... or SHOULD they be?