Jem's last Twitter post is a bit of a worry ... especially given it was some time ago and he's been very quiet since .. does anyone know ... Is the Captain of the goodship Frost* ok ?
Deja Vu on this post, I'm sure I replied to one like this today...
I think/hope it is just the sort of work/life recalibration that a) happens from time-to-time and b) you might expect after Satch week and in the light of enormous work-load.
Some well-deserved time away from the web, I think. He was on the forum a few days ago, wasn't he?
It is very important that Jem is locked away until December. He must not be able to be near baseball bats or cheese graters or indeed anything that may spoil the month of Frost*.
He'll be confined to one locked room, then? ;) I'm sure he's fine. No news is good news and all that.
Thanks for your concern you lovely chaps, t'was a confluence of bad stuff that happened to arrive one after the other in the space of about 48 hours. It made me very cross so I grabbed hold of bad luck, wrestled it to the ground and beat the shit out of it.
And I did win. :D
And I have backed off from the internet though which will be ongoing. During the battle I did look at my life and decided to make some "adjustments". :D
Thank goodness this isn't the internet then. ;)
Hurray! We do get in a tiz when it goes all quiet don't we? :roll:
QuoteHurray! We do get in a tiz when it goes all quiet don't we?
You should see what happens over on the IB forum..................................
At least we have some other things to get on with whilst the boss is away ;)
Quote from: "Mooncat"You should see what happens over on the IB forum..................................
Didn't it go quiet for about 19 years though ;)
Chist - I might even be forced to watch an episode (are they called episodes) of the X-Factor if Frost vanished for that long!
QuoteDidn't it go quiet for about 19 years though
Well yeah, technically. It's kicked off recently though due to the lack of activity/updates etc, every so often someone starts up a 'what's going on' thread and much wild speculation ensues about the state of the band.
REALLY hope that that doesn't happen over here, and that everyone accepts that even Prog God(frey)s have to pay the mortgage, and might not update the web/twitter etc every 30 seconds. I think Jem realises that a lot of the goodwill he's built up stems from these very pages and therefore I would hope it continues, even if it is on a less frequent basis. :)
Quote from: "Againesis"Quote from: "Mooncat"Chist - I might even be forced to watch an episode (are they called episodes) of the X-Factor if Frost vanished for that long!
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You can use the excuse that you're looking to see if Jem ever got the gig in the end credits :lol:
I don't need an excuse - I'd need a lobotomy! :roll:
One of my best mates got into the finals two years ago...and even then I'd only watch it on the Sky plus so I could fast forward through all the dross.
The difference with Frost* and the Frost*ies is (I think/hope) that no-one here thinks (or claims) that they know better what Jem should be doing next.
Baying for another tour now, another album now, declaring that it's "obviously" all over or saying it's time for so-and-so to leave etc. etc. simply helps no-one.
I'd be lying if I said I'm not sad to hear there'll be less of the recent brilliant Internet Jemnastics, but we have to remember that this is a hobby. Anything we get is a blessing.
Well, I think Jem being such a down to earth guy makes it a lot easier for his fans to accept that he's a human being who has a life other than entertaining us. Also, speaking for myself here but there are enough musical layers to the Frost* cake to tide me over for at least another year, so I'm in no rush to start trying to absorb yet another set of new material.
Quote from: "AndreasK"Well, I think Jem being such a down to earth guy makes it a lot easier for his fans to accept that he's a human being who has a life other than entertaining us.
And this is the exact reason I stopped going to the Rudess forums, even I believe Jem feels the same way I and a lot of others feel about him, which I will, for the most part, keep to myself.
Besides, I took a gigantic leave from here, for a good few months at least. True, nobody really noticed, but it's the same principle, life got busy, and I had bigger priorities than coming on here to discuss biscuits and crumpets with you lot. :lol:
They were really good conversations about biscuits and crumpets, mind... ;)
From my experience Frost fans usually start at about age 25+. At that point you (should) have somewhat of a life that would keep you from spending every moment of every day having flamewars on a messageboard about the exact velocity of the 483rd note during the first measure of a Rudess solo. So I think we're allowed to take breaks from the internet without the rest of the forum disowning us.
Quote from: "AndreasK"From my experience Frost fans usually start at about age 25+. At that point you (should) have somewhat of a life that would keep you from spending every moment of every day having flamewars on a messageboard about the exact velocity of the 483rd note during the first measure of a Rudess solo. So I think we're allowed to take breaks from the internet without the rest of the forum disowning us.
I swear it was 64, as he wanted it closer to fortissimo, 63 is basic forte, you imbecile! :lol: :lol:
Quote from: "Againesis"Quote from: "Mooncat"You should see what happens over on the IB forum..................................
Quote from: "Pedro"The difference with Frost* and the Frost*ies is (I think/hope) that no-one here thinks (or claims) that they know better what Jem should be doing next.
Baying for another tour now, another album now, declaring that it's "obviously" all over or saying it's time for so-and-so to leave etc. etc. simply helps no-one.
I'd be lying if I said I'm not sad to hear there'll be less of the recent brilliant Internet Jemnastics, but we have to remember that this is a hobby. Anything we get is a blessing.
you mean we can't say it's all John Mitchell's fault? Where's the fun in that? :lol:
Quote from: "Mooncat"You should see what happens over on the IB forum..................................
Urrrgh - just spent an ill-advised ten minutes in there and now I feel dirty! Big It Bites fan too but I won't be going in there again. I'm absolutely 100% certain the bad atmosphere in there won't permeate to we Frosties. This forum and the IB ones are like matter and antimatter (apart from Pedders who appears to be the small voice of reason in there and JM who can obviously do no wrong!!!).
To be honest they're not all bad - I have a few friends that are both on here and there, but as usual, the minority give the whole thing a bit of an 'atmosphere'.
Still think some of them resent the reformed line up not including Francis and then ditching Dick Nolan.......................
;)
prophylactic prozac usually helps, taken 2 hours before you go there
To be fair there are some lovely fun people there but there are some insatiable trolls too.
OMG! The irony of it all.
B xx :)
*taps the ironyometer, not a flicker.... :)
Hey, calm down, calm down.....
I had a rant earlier, I'll admit, but only because we were promised a dvd from the Carlisle gig in Nov. I loved the gig, took my best buddy and my daughter, and want to relive it. I find out today that it's still 2 months away and I'm venting my frustration. That is what a forum is all about.
I have, as Pedro has, jumped from a height to defend JM on a number of occasions, and also criticised the lack of updates and news. But the forum is also a great place for fans, it's rare than Dena and Peds are absent for more than a few clicks and Rich is around, when he's now busy with the long awaited dvd. So leave off!!! matter and anti-matter - balls, same people different tune..... Frost* is Jem and his passion is people, communicating and sharing.... It Bites is a very different animal.... it's just sleeping, shhhhhhh
Quote from: "Jem"Thanks for your concern you lovely chaps, t'was a confluence of bad stuff that happened to arrive one after the other in the space of about 48 hours. It made me very cross so I grabbed hold of bad luck, wrestled it to the ground and beat the shit out of it.
And I did win. :D
And I have backed off from the internet though which will be ongoing. During the battle I did look at my life and decided to make some "adjustments". :D
If it's not too much to ask, a good old fashioned blog entry on the front page spelling out what you're saying here would be great.
Quote from: "XeRocks81"Quote from: "Jem"Thanks for your concern you lovely chaps, t'was a confluence of bad stuff that happened to arrive one after the other in the space of about 48 hours. It made me very cross so I grabbed hold of bad luck, wrestled it to the ground and beat the shit out of it.
And I did win. :D
And I have backed off from the internet though which will be ongoing. During the battle I did look at my life and decided to make some "adjustments". :D
If it's not too much to ask, a good old fashioned blog entry on the front page spelling out what you're saying here would be great.
One of the adjustments is to stop writing blog items and tweets every time he farts my friend. Jem has kindly responded to concerns in the very area those concerns were raised...
I see
I never really had any other reason to come here other than to read what Jem was up to. I guess If anything ever does happen I'll hear about it elsewhere. Thanks.
edit: I suppose it did come off a little harsher than I meant. Nothing against you glorious people of course ;) but I never did feel comfortable in this little community and only came for the news.
XeRock, bit harsh don't you think?
Place is gonna go quiet now I think.. I'm gonna go back now to trawling the web in a hopeless attempt to make something of my life..
Another lesson learned for all of us "get a lifers". I certainly air on the side of Jem's health and well being of course....and I fully respect his decision to make some changes. It is however a reminder that all things are temporary, and nothing more so than following bands in the internet era. For me, this smacks of a similar situation on the A.C.T forum. Great band, great promise...very well engaged with the fans...big plans for future projects....then BAM! Dead quiet. Not a word. Then finally word they had decided to take time off. Not an unusual story at all for sure......but a little hard to understand nonetheless.
These bands start these forums, and Tweets, and You tube, etc... one would think to garner a solid fan base to help feed the beast....and then walk away leaving followers swinging in the wind.
Jem has certainly been gracious in sharing the inner workings of Frost and all things Godfrey.....and his engaging personality sold it. But being completely honest.....going dark and then basically coming out with a cryptic statement that he is making some adjustments, leaves all of us who felt a small part of "something"....whatever that is to each of us....feeling duped.
Still love Frost.....still hope for more.......but not sure I will be hanging out here to be left poking around for crumbs.
I'm good with crumbs.
It really comes down to two things - Jem has been extremely forthcoming over the years, and when that changes, it is a bit of a shock. Add to that his last communique was in direct opposition to his usually gregarious nature, and what you get are a lot of worried people and equal parts speculation.
It may well be that, at the moment, Jem feels overexposed and needs to tinker with the machine a bit. It's become a common malaise in our modern society, that on the internet we speak freely and, in hindsight, regret having done so. I personally have done it far too often, only to have the digital world and the real world converge to my embarrassment.
I'm not saying this is what's going on with him, but it's going on with me and almost everyone I know. Sometimes radio silence is healthy.
Jem has had breaks before. He always comes back. So leave this subject alone. More importantly, I think it is a shame that XErocks81 has never felt comfortable here. Is this place too clique?
Interesting observations.
The problem is always about managing expectations.
What do you (every Frost*ie that is) expect from the hobby of a full-time working married father of four who is about to play 4 gigs and make a DVD?
I see no promises in what Jem says he is hoping to do.
If he can't get to do something that has previously been mentioned, he doesn't owe me anything. When I buy a ticket, a T-shirt or an album, that is what I have bought....no promise for anything else.
I invest time/money into supporting this and other bands cos I want to because of what I have had not for what I might get.
Our bathroom is still half finished after 5+ years! We all intend to do things but our supporters (my luverly wife in this case) understand that things change.
I hope we all respect Jem's position.
Too clique-y? What can anyone do about that?
I think we should be grateful for what we do get, after all, how many other bands interact with their fans like Jem does?
And let's not forget we've just had "The Worm Cathedral" which has obviously taken some time for Jem to produce and includes some updates on what he's up to. I for one and am very glad he's working hard to make the gigs a fantastic experience. I'd much rather some great audio (and video) once in a blue moon to tweets every 20 minutes.
Im off to the It Bites forum, you are all depressing me! :lol:
Im back! :o
I'm more concerned about the mask of infamy, which was a torture device used as a form of humiliation. The mask itself caused no physical torture, but the wearer was often chained to a post where he or she was tortured by various members surrounding the scene. The mask would sometimes have a ball, or other type of inner device, to prevent the wailing or screaming of the wearer. The types of masks represented the crime. For example, if the person was considered dirty, he or she would wear the pig shaped mask. It would be locked onto the head for a time determined by the accuser. Horrible stuff. :(
I was going to put this in a blog post after the tour, but as things are getting a bit uncharacteristically spiky here...
I won't do the It Bites wall of silence, no offence to them. Here's what's what -
Sorry for doing a runner the other week. It is ill advised to do a Stephen Fry vent and one's spleen on the internet. I realize that now and as such it's one of the reasons why I've stopped using Twitter. It's also why I stopped frequenting other band's forums a few years ago bar a couple of sporadic exceptions. It's a monstrous beast t'internet and I know now I have to use it wisely else it sinks it's gnashers straight into me arse. :lol:
Over the last few weeks, I've had a good old look at my world and I've come to the conclusion that here's a bit too much "Jem" about at the moment. Sometimes it feels like I'm "Jem™".
It's been a hell of a year with the house move, the house renovation, my daughter being born, dayjob work, Frost work, session work, the Satriani gigs and everything else too dull to bore you with here.
I envy bands who just do "being-in-a-band". It must be great to only have that to worry about of a day. They also have managers, tour managers, accountants, most bands at our level however are very much enthusiastic part timers, often juggling other careers in tandem to effectively pay for this part of their lives.
In my case, my dayjob is more than a full time job, it pretty much takes up every day in some form or another. Running Frost is also more than a full time job and also demands something out of me pretty much 7 days a week. Running the two in tandem as I have has been utterly utterly relentless.
Truth be told, I kinda feel how Mike Portnoy must have felt... although I doubt I'll get fired from my own band for saying it. No offence Mikey. ;)
What I need is a bit of time out in 2011. I need some fresh challenges too, Frost is starting to feel like another dayjob and that can't be right. I don't want to end up hating it. I spent some time recently trying to write 1976 in time for the gigs and all I did was stare at the piano for about 3 days. If that's not burnout I dunno what is as I'm never stumped for ideas musically. I then thought I'd write a new song instead and was met with the same fate. Frost just isn't there creatively in my head right now. I can't force it for obvious reasons so it seems like it's the right time to take some time out.
However before any panic sets in I'll reiterate that it's A BREAK!, not THE END!! :)
However however, before all that, we have more festive and altogether more jolly items to attend to, the London show is sold out as is the DVD shoot which is amazing news. This tour should be immense. And don't forget that Johnny Jowitt and Ark will be with us too so I think he'll ratchet up the party stakes somewhat... :lol: :lol:
The DVD will go into post production in January and will be on sale asap after that. You won't have a glacial wait for it as I know some other fans have I assure you. ;)
I LOVE this band by the way. It's part of my life in much the same way my kids are. I feel it's very important that you know that. :D
Jem x
Thanks for posting, Jem!
Take a break whenever you need it. I'll be waiting. 8-)
Quote from: "ich_bin_besser"Thanks for posting, Jem!
Take a break whenever you need it. I'll be waiting. 8-)
Indeed! And given that 2010 was meant to be a Frost*-free year, we've been exceptionally lucky. With the live album, a new epic in TDL, the gigs and a DVD shoot, I think we'll have enough Frost* to tide us over for quite a while - certainly until the batteries have recharged and it is something you want to do again. Frost* has to be fun for all involved, not a chore. 8-)
100% seconded DS. 2010 has been a huge and totally unexpected Frosty year already and with the December gigs the best bit has yet to come!!
Cheers for taking the time out to elighten us.
;)
Will be 'on board' for the Bilston party, roll on Next Sunday!!!!! 8-)
Quote from: "Mooncat"Cheers for taking the time out to elighten us.
;)
Will be 'on board' for the Bilston party, roll on Next Sunday!!!!! 8-)
Indeed, not too long now :)
Yes take it easy ( if you can with those commitments!). No point in killing yourself/family/music. Hobbies are, after all, for spare time. And if we feel like moaning, why we'll just do it on Another forum! Happy Xmas :)
Quote from: "Jem"*Stuff*
Look after yourself, mate. :)
Thanks for taking the time to pop in, Jem. A break sounds like a mighty fine idea - my wallet will be glad to hear of that new! :lol: Don't do yourself in, mate. Have a hug, instead. ;)
See you next month! :D
Good to hear from you Jem. Take as much time as you need. I don't think anyone in here will doubt how busy you really are. Frost* is a very spontaneous band imo, which reflects in the music. If you start going on an infinite album release cycle, the creativity will surely be sucked out of it. Make the songs when you've got time and ideas. I'm pretty sure all the lovely Frost*ies will still be here whenever there's something new for them to listen to. :)
For now, take care of yourself first! :D
thanks for the update jem, the fact that you take the time to fill us in on things when you dont have to is part of what makes this forum so special. :D
Quote from: "turbo"thanks for the update jem, the fact that you take the time to fill us in on things when you dont have to is part of what makes this forum so special. :D
I second this! Plus the creative juices will come back when they are good and ready. Maximum fun, minimum stress.
I know it's a bit early but....Merry Christmas :D
Hey Jem,
Although I'm not a part of this community, I'd just like to join the others here in expressing well-wishes and thanks for your efforts in keeping us informed and entertained above and beyond what you present us on shiny pressed discs. I can assure you that the sheer lunacy of listening to a song about zombies (for fuck's sake) whilst wearing a Frosterisk stamped beanie as I bounce across the frozen wasteland of Antarctica has kept me smiling. So, from the bottom of the world - cheers, and good luck with whatever it is you do next!
Quote from: "SpocksBeer"Hey Jem,
Although I'm not a part of this community,
Wrong. Now you are.
Welcome!!:D
Quote from: "ich_bin_besser"Wrong. Now you are.
Welcome!!:D
Danke ich_bin_besser. :)
Jem, you should take it easy and deserve a rest, you are an inspiration to us all and long may it continue. Despite the place you are in, you've taken time out and let us know what's going on, brilliant, brilliant....
Can't wait for Derby and know you'll be on top form...... then you can concentrate on the 1.5 day jobs and being a Dad... before you join IQ to replace Mark :lol:
Thanks for the update, Jem. Take care of yourself :)
Looking forward to the upcoming gigs!
I'd like to echo what everyone else has already said, take all the time you need, Jem! Like people have already said, you've spoiled us rotten this year and we've got more than enough to tide us over for a while longer! Thanks for letting us know the situation, and see you in Bilston. :)
Jem
Glad your OK
Take care
Tim
I'm a bit concerned about how serious it's got around here!
I can't wait for the gigs, it's going to be a wonderful pre-Christmas party. Don't forget old Blunders and Nathan will be doing their first Frost* shows, there'll be biscuits and loads of merch including a fabulous tour t-shirt.
Huzzah!
Huzzah indeed! :)
Huzzah thirded! But I believe Nathan's first Frost* shows were the Dream Theater supports. ;)
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And he's bloody good at it! :D
Thanks for the update Jem. And yes! Tis nearly Frost*mas time :D I am very excited by 3 gigs in a week.
Fladaaaa!
Quote from: "Mouse"Huzzah thirded! But I believe Nathan's first Frost* shows were the Dream Theater supports. ;)
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And he's bloody good at it! :D
D'oh! Of course they were. I'm very keen to see the line up though. It's going to be aaaaawwwwwwwwesome!! :D
Thanks Jem for letting us know.
I'll be waiting in anticipation ^_^
Well I kind of missed all this but good to hear from Jem and to know that he is ok!
Looking forward greatly to the shows (next week!) - a pre xmas treat of epic proportions!
see some of you people there!
:D :D
did you know that a bronze church bell with a relief Medieval Greek text, is considered by Bulgarian researchers to be among the oldest extant church bells in Europe, and was unearthed in Melnik in the 2000s. The inscription prompted the researchers to associate the bell with the Church of St Nicholas. It reads: "Copper-smelted church bell, a gift by Alexius, who is the pious Slav, to Saint Nicholas of Myra". The text is thought to reference Alexius Slav. A very similar bell, also found in Melnik, bears an inscription which mentions Byzantine Emperor Michael VIII Palaiologos (r. 1259–1282) and the year 1270 specifically. However, this second bell may not have belonged to the Church of St Nicholas, but rather to another church in Melnik.
Looking forward to the London Gig!!
Take care of yourself Jem. I'll always be a frostie*
Quote from: "rogerg"did you know that a bronze church bell with a relief Medieval Greek text, is considered by Bulgarian researchers to be among the oldest extant church bells in Europe, and was unearthed in Melnik in the 2000s. The inscription prompted the researchers to associate the bell with the Church of St Nicholas. It reads: "Copper-smelted church bell, a gift by Alexius, who is the pious Slav, to Saint Nicholas of Myra". The text is thought to reference Alexius Slav. A very similar bell, also found in Melnik, bears an inscription which mentions Byzantine Emperor Michael VIII Palaiologos (r. 1259–1282) and the year 1270 specifically. However, this second bell may not have belonged to the Church of St Nicholas, but rather to another church in Melnik.
Not only that, but Benjamin Britten wrote a Christmas cantata entitled "St. Nicolas" commissioned by three public schools. Edward Purcell composed a choral song for male choir entitled "St. Nicolas". in 1730 and also there is a classic music composition "Oratorio San Nicola di Bari", written by Giovanni Battista Bononcini in 1693.
It must indeed be very difficult to manage all those various work projects as well as family commitments etc etc!
So. Hey Ho. Onwards and upwards. Was hoping to make it to the Derby gig but will have to sadly make do with the DVD so I'm looking forward to that in '11!
Quote from: "MarkOneMusic"Quote from: "rogerg"did you know that a bronze church bell with a relief Medieval Greek text, is considered by Bulgarian researchers to be among the oldest extant church bells in Europe, and was unearthed in Melnik in the 2000s. The inscription prompted the researchers to associate the bell with the Church of St Nicholas. It reads: "Copper-smelted church bell, a gift by Alexius, who is the pious Slav, to Saint Nicholas of Myra". The text is thought to reference Alexius Slav. A very similar bell, also found in Melnik, bears an inscription which mentions Byzantine Emperor Michael VIII Palaiologos (r. 1259–1282) and the year 1270 specifically. However, this second bell may not have belonged to the Church of St Nicholas, but rather to another church in Melnik.
Not only that, but Benjamin Britten wrote a Christmas cantata entitled "St. Nicolas" commissioned by three public schools. Edward Purcell composed a choral song for male choir entitled "St. Nicolas". in 1730 and also there is a classic music composition "Oratorio San Nicola di Bari", written by Giovanni Battista Bononcini in 1693.
Nice try guys... ;)
Hijacking doesn't seem to work so well any more - it must be all the new security precautions.
Don't touch my junk!
Quote from: "Tricky"Quote from: "MarkOneMusic"Quote from: "rogerg"did you know that a bronze church bell with a relief Medieval Greek text, is considered by Bulgarian researchers to be among the oldest extant church bells in Europe, and was unearthed in Melnik in the 2000s. The inscription prompted the researchers to associate the bell with the Church of St Nicholas. It reads: "Copper-smelted church bell, a gift by Alexius, who is the pious Slav, to Saint Nicholas of Myra". The text is thought to reference Alexius Slav. A very similar bell, also found in Melnik, bears an inscription which mentions Byzantine Emperor Michael VIII Palaiologos (r. 1259–1282) and the year 1270 specifically. However, this second bell may not have belonged to the Church of St Nicholas, but rather to another church in Melnik.
Not only that, but Benjamin Britten wrote a Christmas cantata entitled "St. Nicolas" commissioned by three public schools. Edward Purcell composed a choral song for male choir entitled "St. Nicolas". in 1730 and also there is a classic music composition "Oratorio San Nicola di Bari", written by Giovanni Battista Bononcini in 1693.
Nice try guys... ;)
Hijacking doesn't seem to work so well any more - it must be all the new security precautions.
Don't touch my junk!
Very true. Derailing isn't isn't what it used to be. But in the meantime, did you know that Zoodoo Wildlife Park is a wildlife park about 6 km from Richmond, Tasmania in Australia? It is spread over 90 hectares.Originally an Ostrich farm and miniature pony stud, Zoodoo first opened to the public on 2 July 1999 with just a few native animals. It has grown quickly to become one of the Tasmania's largest wildlife parks and today boasts Bengal Tigers and African lions among many other native and foreign species of animals and birds.
Come on, there are lions! 8-)
Whilst we're discussing Tasmania.............
The Third Ending are an Australian progressive rock band, based in Tasmania.[1] Their style incorporates common progressive rock/metal elements: technical proficiency, skilled songwriting, and epic, lyrical songs. The band have cited Pink Floyd, Dream Theater and Porcupine Tree as some of their strongest influences, and reviewers have likened them to Spock's Beard and Neal Morse's solo work.[2]
Their self-titled debut album was released independently in June 2006 (see 2006 in music). Although only released in limited numbers, the album received favourable reviews,[2] including praise from solo artist/bassist Bryan Beller, and Melbourne-based guitarist Michael Mills, who called them "the finest Australian progressive rock band ever".[3]
In December 2006, the band was signed to U.S.-based ProgRock Records.[4]
Andnotonlythatbut The Third Ending appeared on the debut of the Experiments in Mass Appeal podcast on The Dividing Line and will again be on the playlist this Saturday.
Quote from: "johninblack"Whilst we're discussing Tasmania.............
The Third Ending are an Australian progressive rock band, based in Tasmania.[1] Their style incorporates common progressive rock/metal elements: technical proficiency, skilled songwriting, and epic, lyrical songs. The band have cited Pink Floyd, Dream Theater and Porcupine Tree as some of their strongest influences, and reviewers have likened them to Spock's Beard and Neal Morse's solo work.[2]
Their self-titled debut album was released independently in June 2006 (see 2006 in music). Although only released in limited numbers, the album received favourable reviews,[2] including praise from solo artist/bassist Bryan Beller, and Melbourne-based guitarist Michael Mills, who called them "the finest Australian progressive rock band ever".[3]
In December 2006, the band was signed to U.S.-based ProgRock Records.[4]
The missing references:
References
^ Naidoo, Meryl (30 November 2006), "Local lads under the prog rock influence", Hobart Mercury
^ a b Album review at OzProg.com
^ The Third Ending - OzProg Forum
^ ProgRock Records press release
Wiki? Oh John :roll:
They rawk!
Hey, vocalnick, how about an update on the new album? :)
QuoteHey, vocalnick, how about an update on the new album?
Oooo, Yes please - love the first one so can't wait for the next offering. :)
Quote from: "Tricky"Nice try guys... ;)
Hijacking doesn't seem to work so well any more - it must be all the new security precautions.
Don't touch my junk!
Our work here, I believe, is done ;)
:)
So it appears the answer to this posting's headline is...pineapple! 8-)
Quite right. :)
I prefer cheese and pineapple hedgehogs :P
speaking of pineapple, I put coconut rum in my Mtn Dew yesterday, and I think I have discovered something new and delicious! 8-)
they're a bugger to catch, them hedgehogs
Quote from: "rogerg"speaking of pineapple, I put coconut rum in my Mtn Dew yesterday, and I think I have discovered something new and delicious! 8-)
What is Mountain Dew? It sounds rather suspicious.
Quote from: "Nellie"Quote from: "rogerg"speaking of pineapple, I put coconut rum in my Mtn Dew yesterday, and I think I have discovered something new and delicious! 8-)
What is Mountain Dew? It sounds rather suspicious.
only the best caffeinated, carbonated beverage in the world!!
www.mountaindew.com (http://www.mountaindew.com)
8-)
Quote from: "rogerg"Quote from: "Nellie"Quote from: "rogerg"speaking of pineapple, I put coconut rum in my Mtn Dew yesterday, and I think I have discovered something new and delicious! 8-)
What is Mountain Dew? It sounds rather suspicious.
only the best caffeinated, carbonated beverage in the world!!
http://www.mountaindew.com (http://www.mountaindew.com)
8-)
Oh. If it's anything like Red Bull, I'm afraid I will gag. :? What's wrong with fizzy coffee anyway?
Quote from: "Nellie"Quote from: "rogerg"Quote from: "Nellie"Quote from: "rogerg"speaking of pineapple, I put coconut rum in my Mtn Dew yesterday, and I think I have discovered something new and delicious! 8-)
What is Mountain Dew? It sounds rather suspicious.
only the best caffeinated, carbonated beverage in the world!!
http://www.mountaindew.com (http://www.mountaindew.com)
8-)
Oh. If it's anything like Red Bull, I'm afraid I will gag. :? What's wrong with fizzy coffee anyway?
I can't stand Red Bull, but Mt Dew is very sweet. and there's nothing wrong with fizzy coffee!
Quote from: "rogerg"Quote from: "Nellie"Quote from: "rogerg"Quote from: "Nellie"Quote from: "rogerg"speaking of pineapple, I put coconut rum in my Mtn Dew yesterday, and I think I have discovered something new and delicious! 8-)
What is Mountain Dew? It sounds rather suspicious.
only the best caffeinated, carbonated beverage in the world!!
http://www.mountaindew.com (http://www.mountaindew.com)
8-)
Oh. If it's anything like Red Bull, I'm afraid I will gag. :? What's wrong with fizzy coffee anyway?
I can't stand Red Bull, but Mt Dew is very sweet. and there's nothing wrong with fizzy coffee!
What's fizzy coffee? ;)
Quote from: "Nellie"Quote from: "rogerg"Quote from: "Nellie"Quote from: "rogerg"Quote from: "Nellie"Quote from: "rogerg"speaking of pineapple, I put coconut rum in my Mtn Dew yesterday, and I think I have discovered something new and delicious! 8-)
What is Mountain Dew? It sounds rather suspicious.
only the best caffeinated, carbonated beverage in the world!!
http://www.mountaindew.com (http://www.mountaindew.com)
8-)
Oh. If it's anything like Red Bull, I'm afraid I will gag. :? What's wrong with fizzy coffee anyway?
I can't stand Red Bull, but Mt Dew is very sweet. and there's nothing wrong with fizzy coffee!
What's fizzy coffee? ;)
you got me!! 8-)
Quote from: "Nellie"What is Mountain Dew? It sounds rather suspicious.
I would say it's a bit like Sprite. But then again, I think alcoholic ginger beer smells like sausage rolls, so whaddaeyeno? :roll:
Mountain Dew tastes closer to Fresca or Vault than Sprite or 7UP.
I haven't tried Fresca or Vault, but I suppose it tastes like Mtn Dew. :P
Never tried Mountain Dew - sounds far too twee. Like it's harvested from the nipples of Austrian Goat Herds or something!
Quote from: "Againesis"Never tried Mountain Dew - sounds far too twee. Like it's harvested from the nipples of Austrian Goat Herds or something!
blasphemy! more like Deliverance! it's a man's drink!
On my one and only sortie to the US of A (which was a theme-park-filled 2 weeks in Orlando) I tried and instantly loved Mountain Dew. Wish we had it over here.
plenty of mt dew up her in sunny oswaldtwistle.... :o
I tried some Mt. Dew, and I have this to say:
Sprite is a lemon and lime fizzy drink.
Mt. Dew is a lime and lemon fizzy drink.
There :)
I've seen Mt. Dew as a Sports drink (I think) here in middley-England but not the "ordinary" fizz in a can.
I went to the American Food Store in Notting Hill Gate and found some of the ordinary variety there (I didn't have enough money for a box of Lucky Charms, sadly). I've seen a friend with a bottle of it in Hull, but I have no clue where he got it from.
I vaguely recall having it with ice cream as a float when I was in Orlando as well. I think I liked it: senility has struck sadly :cry: How much caffeine is involved, coke standard or izzy-whizzy?
here's a quick list:
http://www.overcaffeinated.org/caffeine-in-soda.php (http://www.overcaffeinated.org/caffeine-in-soda.php)
and an over-caffeinated list!
http://www.energyfiend.com/the-caffeine-database (http://www.energyfiend.com/the-caffeine-database)
Mt Dew is in the mid-30s...
That's the way to do it :lol:
Quote from: "rogerg"Mt Dew is in the mid-30s...
Wish I was. Seriously I didn't realise that the diet stuff has more caffeine in. Not sure if that's good or bad. I suspect red wine is better for you anyway ;)