There is just so much to take in here.. This album is in a whole different league. We are hearing a bands chemistry truly for the first time. This is Jem Godfreys best work to date with the Frost* name on it at the writing level! I also feel we as Frost*ies have seen Jems Vocals matured. "Last Day" was incredible Vocally.. As was everything he Sang on this. I always felt on Milliontown he was hiding behind effects.. Then it got more exposed with Dek with EIMA. NOT in any way a Critisism! But hell, he's emotionally Belting on this, and God Damn I cried! Very emotional! Blah blah. I could go on and critique every aspect, but why? I love it! Obviously! Love to hear more reviews from True Fans once it sets in that, Holy Shit... A New Frost* album exists!! This one is gonna take some time I think to ferment. Like a Fine Cider.. Overwhelmed! :D
Here's mine. I basically say what you say, Jim, but in a bout a bajillion more words.
http://echoesanddust.com/2016/05/frost-falling-satellites/
Holy mother of God review! Nailed it...... Couldn't agree more with every word! It's funny you made a Shineback reference too... It's genetic man!
I like it all a lot, but I feel like Signs belongs on an It Bites or Lonely Robot CD rather than a Frost* one.
Quote from: Jim Takacs on May 29, 2016, 02:02:00 AM
There is just so much to take in here. This one is gonna take some time I think to ferment. Like a Fine Cider.. Overwhelmed! :D
That was my point in the other thread
I don't think Jem got any aspect of the album wrong.
Far from it.
I'm with Pedro, it's spot on.
I succumbed and am listening on Spotify.
O
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so much <3.
huge. amazing. thank you to the Four Frost*men.
Nice Day For It is almost bringing me to tears.
Quote from: rogerg on May 30, 2016, 04:30:53 PM
I succumbed and am listening on Spotify.
Don't blame you!
Quote from: rogerg on May 30, 2016, 04:30:53 PM
Nice Day For It is almost bringing me to tears.
Last Day does this for me (there are a lot of days in this album aren't there?)
The more days the better! ;D
I truly love this.
Nothing more to say.
Mine arrived today (thanks, Nellie!) and I just can't get enough of it. I expect it will live in all my various players for many weeks, if not months.
Million town is my #1 desert island disc, but this could give it a run. time will tell.
again, I can't thank Jem and the Four Frost*men enough. this is the music of my brain/soul.
Now that we're a week on from release I figured I'd give a few thoughts on the album. I'll try not to make this too long, sorry in advance if I do.
The album is fantastic. Writing is top notch, has the Frost* sound about it but also progresses that sound to new areas. Production is spot on, it's big but I don't think it ever gets overpowering.
I'm a sucker for motifs/themes that return in a different context so I get a big kick out of 'Nice Day for It' and 'Hypoventilate'.
Jem's vocals are incredible all over the album, really going for it in a way he hasn't really done before and getting some surprisingly high notes too as a result.
An initial favourite of mine has to be 'British Wintertime'. The instrumentation really does make me think "Winter" and the way the texture builds and then fades is sublime.
So yeah, in short, I really like it. ;D
Going back to what TA said on another thread it really does need as good a hifi as possible. I don't find Milliontown does anymore, probably because I know it so well that my brain fills in the bits my iPhone has ignored/fudged. To get the most out of this really does need kicking the kids out and listening. I agree with Brendan, love the recurrent motifs. I don't think, despite JM singing/writing that it sounds like an It Bites thing, I really like Towerblock, but it's the second half as a whole that I like most. It'll probably never "beat" Milliontown, but it's a run for it's money. The musicianship is what we'd expect, but a lot of the time I'm not noticing, the songs are that good anyway.
I love the new BBT album too, which just shows how diverse "prog" is.
Favourite actual song is Lights Out, I think
Quote from: BrendanGee on June 03, 2016, 11:17:08 AM
Now that we're a week on from release I figured I'd give a few thoughts on the album. I'll try not to make this too long, sorry in advance if I do.
The album is fantastic. Writing is top notch, has the Frost* sound about it but also progresses that sound to new areas. Production is spot on, it's big but I don't think it ever gets overpowering.
I'm a sucker for motifs/themes that return in a different context so I get a big kick out of 'Nice Day for It' and 'Hypoventilate'.
Jem's vocals are incredible all over the album, really going for it in a way he hasn't really done before and getting some surprisingly high notes too as a result.
An initial favourite of mine has to be 'British Wintertime'. The instrumentation really does make me think "Winter" and the way the texture builds and then fades is sublime.
So yeah, in short, I really like it. ;D
Your review sums it up nicely.
My favorite thing about the album is that it sounds exactly like Frost but also manages to introduce A LOT of new textures as well. Songs like 'Lights Out', 'Closer to the Sun' and 'Lantern' show a more refined pop sound than we've previously heard from Frost, where on the other side of the coin, the 'Heartstrings - Last Day medley' show a more refined prog rock sound that seems like it puts most of the Inside Out catalog to shame.
Some people might think songs like 'Lights Out' veer too far from the Frost sound but I think the opposite. This track makes me want to cuddle up in a comfortable dimly lit bedroom somewhere in the cold, green English landscape. That's Frost* to the core.
I think it's very possible that this album does beat Milliontown only because it has everything Milliontown has, and then more. I don't think I will ever recover from the distance which I have been blown away by this album. It was a big blow.
Quote from: leelustig on June 03, 2016, 06:06:21 PM
Some people might think songs like 'Lights Out' veer too far from the Frost sound but I think the opposite. This track makes me want to cuddle up in a comfortable dimly lit bedroom somewhere in the cold, green English landscape. That's Frost* to the core.
Yes now this is interesting because a few of us heard a demo of Lights Out when it was part of Jem's solo project Clouda. When I realised it was going to be included on FS I was curious as to how it would feel as part of a Frost* album. Now, there it is - slap-bang in the middle of an
excellent Frost* album and it fits far more perfectly that I could have possibly imagined.
Quote from: JakeWorrell on June 03, 2016, 08:42:48 PM
Quote from: leelustig on June 03, 2016, 06:06:21 PM
Some people might think songs like 'Lights Out' veer too far from the Frost sound but I think the opposite. This track makes me want to cuddle up in a comfortable dimly lit bedroom somewhere in the cold, green English landscape. That's Frost* to the core.
Yes now this is interesting because a few of us heard a demo of Lights Out when it was part of Jem's solo project Clouda. When I realised it was going to be included on FS I was curious as to how it would feel as part of a Frost* album. Now, there it is - slap-bang in the middle of an excellent Frost* album and it fits far more perfectly that I could have possibly imagined.
Oh wow, I didn't even realize it was previously released.
Does anybody have any info on why 'Fathers' didn't make it on the album? Did a search on these forums but couldn't find any recent discussions about it.
Quote from: Jim Takacs on May 29, 2016, 06:39:12 PM
Holy mother of God review! Nailed it...... Couldn't agree more with every word! It's funny you made a Shineback reference too... It's genetic man!
Thank you! The floodgates kinda opened when I sat down to write it. All spurred on by 'Last Day'. Something in that song just clicked with me, hit the right emotional button and it kinda influenced the rest of the album for me.
Yeah I had to throw a nod to Shineback in there. Firstly because there are moments on FS that evoked that project and secondly because more people need to check it out!!
The Godfreys are surely an unbelievably talented brood!
Quote from: leelustig on June 04, 2016, 01:32:48 AM
Oh wow, I didn't even realize it was previously released.
Does anybody have any info on why 'Fathers' didn't make it on the album?
I'm pretty sure Jem said that it just didn't fit with the other tracks and that it would likely turn up later on an EP along with some other tunes.
Interestingly enough though, the vocals in 'First Day' are a variation of lines that appear in 'Fathers'.
Jem's very green. He recycles as much as he can
Quote from: BrendanGee on June 04, 2016, 06:59:37 PM
Interestingly enough though, the vocals in 'First Day' are a variation of lines that appear in 'Fathers'.
Yes, and I believe they also appear towards the end of 'Nice Day For It.'
I can't believe it's taken me this long to get round to adding my two pennorth.
I probably can't say anything that hasn't been said already. I love it. I listened three times in a row, realising it was a fab album from the first listen and wanting to get it in to my consciousness.
THe first listen floored me especially as it built to the end sequence. One thing I should say is that because I work at Progzilla Radio I was privilaged to get a promo digital version before the album came out, but it didn't include the two bonus tracks, so it ends on Last Day, which I personally think is how it should end. I know you don't have to listen to bonus tracks, but I always feel it kind of slightly kills the ambience of the end of an album, if the album then in effect starts again. :)
Because of this I haven't actually put the CD in my player yet. Lol. I want to hear the other tracks, but the end of the album is so bloody powerfull I almost don't need to hear any more. Wow. The first time I heard it I did have a bit of dampness in the old peepers. I guess knowing the theme of the album made it so much more poignant.
Like most people I have at one point or another got a bit morbid about death and coming to the end of life, and of course I've lost loved ones, so I find it a fasinating yet very sad and evocative concept. That whole end sequence is just amazing. Raging Against the thingybob is an outstanding piece of Jemness, and Nice Day For It is almost like a second Hyperventilate.
Then Hypoventilate I found to be extremely beautiful and a bit disturbing with the slowing heartbeat effect and the eary reoccurring theme from Heartstrings. I must say, I knew damn well it was going to do that kind of big wooshy thing and then cut off at the end of Hypo, but it stil got me when it happened. :)
Then Last Day is so poignant, and as has already been mentioned by others the vocal is so good. Ending with that last cord and the birds singing. Perfect, just perfect.
I like the rest of the album just as much. The songs are brilliantly written and produced of course. All the guys have really pulled it out of the bag. :)
I'm reading on other forums a lot of "What's that bit in Tower Block all about" type stuff. Not quite sure what the fuss is about there. It's just a wierd techy bit which sounds cool to me.
Quite funny though. The first time I heard the opening section with that big clonk in it, it was around midnight and very quiet. I don't know how Jem did it, but I had headphones on and it sounded just like it was something clonking in the bedroom a couple of meters away. I jumped, shouted "Shit!" and woke my wife up to ask her what the noise was. She wasn't impressed. Lol
All in all, it is stunning. It's right up there with Million Town for me.
Well well well done chaps and I'm looking forward to Bilston even more now.
Quote from: tigermoth on June 06, 2016, 10:41:42 PM
The first time I heard the opening section with that big clonk in it, it was around midnight and very quiet. I don't know how Jem did it, but I had headphones on and it sounded just like it was something clonking in the bedroom a couple of meters away.
I have it on very loud in the van, and I still can't get used to the clonk
I got tricked by it while standing in a bus shelter last week
Not the clonk but a chunk of Towerblock kicked in on the car stereo while I was waiting for the lights to change this afternoon and a bloke on the way into the Co-op opposite me jumped! :o
I still turn around overtime it "clonks". ;D
I only just got the album a couple days ago since I live in Texas. In my excitement I just couldn't wait (I banned myself from listening to it on spotify until I obtained the CD), and threw the CD into the car and listened to it on my way to work. I listened as intently as I could while watching the world around me flood, literally. And there was just so much going on that I couldn't get into it. Especially TIOWEOTIHSDOIFN in 7/8ths. I was disappointed. I listened to the whole album that way. Couldn't find a groove, felt like there were too many slow bits, and just too much noise.
BUT THEN I finally got some time at home to just sit and listen to it on my nice audio set-up (HD650s, Schiit modi2/magni2uber) and oh my goodness was I ever mistaken. What a great album! So many details, even more so than EIMA. There literally isn't a bad song on the album. It's so fresh and modern and just what I expected Frost* to put out. I love it. It's very vocal heavy, which is different for me but I still like it. Both Jem and JM have perfect voices for this album and they harmonized all the lines really well. The writing is top notch; there's no cheese to be found. So far I really love Lights out and Heartstrings. I can see myself listening to this album MANY times in the future; all that noise isn't just noise, it's passion and love and fun and little details that make you rewind 5 seconds to listen to a gliss or an effect again.
In short, exceeded expectations, and now because of Frost* I've bought a synth. I don't even know how to play the keyboard. Thanks a lot. :-[
EDIT: and yes the clonk on Towerblock scared the shit out of me Especially on my headphones. I thought someone was trying to break in :o
Quote from: Mikey on June 07, 2016, 03:36:13 PM
Quote from: tigermoth on June 06, 2016, 10:41:42 PM
The first time I heard the opening section with that big clonk in it, it was around midnight and very quiet. I don't know how Jem did it, but I had headphones on and it sounded just like it was something clonking in the bedroom a couple of meters away.
I have it on very loud in the van, and I still can't get used to the clonk
& the ice-cream van ???
It's superb.
Edit: All of it.
I was lucky to have a listening copy for quite a while before the release. Thing One had it as his bedtime music for weeks and learned all the words. One day we were playing the CD in the car when Towerblock came on. Thing Two calmly states, "Jem should fix this CD" and starts air-drumming ;D and as I'm humming and singing along to the crazy bit, Thing One says "No, no, no, you've got it all wrong, it's like this......"
My work here is done.
prog-spawn.
hope for the world! ;D
mine likes Sinatra. Actually part of me thinks, "Well the man can sing" but... ??? Clearly not what he's been brought up on
My little boy also likes the new album. He likes all the albums actually.
As a treat I'll be taking him to the gig at the Robin 2 in Bilston, as long as he promises to be good.
He should be ok though, after all he is 27. ;)
So many layers that you know you have to listen again? - Tick
Sweet songs that I can play to Mrs L33VEY? - Tick
Bonkers songs that frighten so called prog fans? - Tick
Vinyl artwork that's going to look great one the wall once the boys sign it? - Tick
So good that even Folklore can't get a look in at the moment? Tick
Every bit as good as Milliontown which brought me back to prog? - Tick
^ nailed it.
;D
If I was more talented
If I could play better,
If I had the imagination,
If I had less distractions
If I was more driven
If I had better gear
If I didn't have a day job
If I didn't have to make stupid excuses...
....I'd write music just like Falling Satellites ;D
Absolutely LOVE it.
Quote from: L33VEY on June 12, 2016, 08:34:14 PM
So many layers that you know you have to listen again? - Tick
Sweet songs that I can play to Mrs L33VEY? - Tick
Bonkers songs that frighten so called prog fans? - Tick
Vinyl artwork that's going to look great one the wall once the boys sign it? - Tick
So good that even Folklore can't get a look in at the moment? Tick
Every bit as good as Milliontown which brought me back to prog? - Tick
This review should appear in a sticker on the shrink wrapping.
Quote from: leelustig on June 13, 2016, 07:21:32 PM
Quote from: L33VEY on June 12, 2016, 08:34:14 PM
So many layers that you know you have to listen again? - Tick
Sweet songs that I can play to Mrs L33VEY? - Tick
Bonkers songs that frighten so called prog fans? - Tick
Vinyl artwork that's going to look great one the wall once the boys sign it? - Tick
So good that even Folklore can't get a look in at the moment? Tick
Every bit as good as Milliontown which brought me back to prog? - Tick
This review should appear in a sticker on the shrink wrapping.
8)
Funnily enough I'm using Folklore as a sort of palate cleanser. They work well together
Quote from: L33VEY on June 13, 2016, 08:22:33 PM
Quote from: leelustig on June 13, 2016, 07:21:32 PM
Quote from: L33VEY on June 12, 2016, 08:34:14 PM
So many layers that you know you have to listen again? - Tick
Sweet songs that I can play to Mrs L33VEY? - Tick
Bonkers songs that frighten so called prog fans? - Tick
Vinyl artwork that's going to look great one the wall once the boys sign it? - Tick
So good that even Folklore can't get a look in at the moment? Tick
Every bit as good as Milliontown which brought me back to prog? - Tick
This review should appear in a sticker on the shrink wrapping.
8)
That's gotta be heh heh :)
Quote from: sawtooth on June 13, 2016, 03:38:36 PM
If I was more talented
If I could play better,
If I had the imagination,
If I had less distractions
If I was more driven
If I had better gear
If I didn't have a day job
If I didn't have to make stupid excuses...
....I'd write music just like Falling Satellites ;D
Absolutely LOVE it.
& I'd be happy if I'd written & performed on the Red Bazar album 8) 8) 8) 8)
I could go on and on about quintuplets, production geekery, how easy the maze on the cover is to solve, and something about the goddamn commies and other completely unrelated filler nonsense like you're supposed to do in reviews to fill space and make your sentences so long they're practically unreadable to the average reader because it feels like talking without being able to breathe until you're blue in the face due to the lack of oxygen to the brain which can be damaging even after a few seconds and while we're at it screw punctuation as well you're completely lost at this point anyway, but I'll say this:
It's the best one yet.
Quote from: jt57 on June 12, 2016, 12:54:52 AM
My little boy also likes the new album. He likes all the albums actually.
As a treat I'll be taking him to the gig at the Robin 2 in Bilston, as long as he promises to be good.
He should be ok though, after all he is 27. ;)
;-))))))))))
There doesn't appear to be a "Newbies introduction" thread, so I might as well just dive straight in and give my thoughts on Falling Satellites as post no. 1.
Really really love this album! And it's grown on me even more in the weeks since release. My favourite track is definitely Signs, although Heartstrings and Numbers are not too far behind. The middle section in particular is especially awesome!
Quote from: RoeDent89 on June 22, 2016, 09:41:36 PM
There doesn't appear to be a "Newbies introduction" thread,
Welcome, you're quite right but all we really need to know is what is your biscuit of choice? You can always tell us about yourself by starting a thread in "Any other business".
Quote from: johninblack on June 23, 2016, 05:07:51 AM
Welcome, you're quite right but all we really need to know is what is your biscuit of choice? You can always tell us about yourself by starting a thread in "Any other business".
Hmm....I'm swaying towards Chocolate Digestives. Or Malted Milk. One of those two, I think.
Quote from: RoeDent89 on June 23, 2016, 09:38:38 AM
Quote from: johninblack on June 23, 2016, 05:07:51 AM
Welcome, you're quite right but all we really need to know is what is your biscuit of choice? You can always tell us about yourself by starting a thread in "Any other business".
Hmm....I'm swaying towards Chocolate Digestives. Or Malted Milk. One of those two, I think.
Milk or plain choc?
welcome, rd89!
Quote from: owen on June 23, 2016, 11:22:46 AM
Quote from: RoeDent89 on June 23, 2016, 09:38:38 AM
Quote from: johninblack on June 23, 2016, 05:07:51 AM
Welcome, you're quite right but all we really need to know is what is your biscuit of choice? You can always tell us about yourself by starting a thread in "Any other business".
Hmm....I'm swaying towards Chocolate Digestives. Or Malted Milk. One of those two, I think.
Milk or plain choc?
Oh, milk, without question. Can't stand dark chocolate. If white chocolate digestives were a thing, I'd go for that.
And thanks rogerg.
Oooh, why hasn't White Chocolate Digestives never been a thing? :P
Quote from: BrendanGee on June 23, 2016, 06:01:57 PM
Oooh, why hasn't White Chocolate Digestives never been a thing? :P
Oh, definitely - that's a winner! Anyone got contacts in McVities?
I think my current favourite bisquits are the M&S Extremely Chocolatey white choc rounds - nom! ;D
PS - welcome RoeDent89! 8)
Something tells me that this is not the first thread to veer off into discussion of biscuits.
[thread duty]Falling Satellites is great![/thread duty]
Forum rules:-
1. Do talk about biscuits - and Frost*
2. Don't stay on topic
3. Did you know that that Floyd Carothers turned a plow horse into a national champion?
4. There is no rule 4. ;D
I thought rule 4 was skip to rule 5
& welcome
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Rule 6: No Poofdas
I like milk chocolate digestives too
Hello, I am back and this was my initial reaction to the new album
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Hello stranger
It's your round😊
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Ohhh my, it seems that my profile here even lists my MSN. I surely haven't been around for a while...
Yay!
Sooo... Did I miss anything? I see you're a mod now Roger, congrats :D
Quote from: AnsOnkruid on June 24, 2016, 03:06:06 PM
Sooo... Did I miss anything? I see you're a mod now Roger, congrats :D
heh
"Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them."
;D
I just spilled my tea!
Quote from: rogerg on June 24, 2016, 03:49:53 PM
Quote from: AnsOnkruid on June 24, 2016, 03:06:06 PM
Sooo... Did I miss anything? I see you're a mod now Roger, congrats :D
heh
"Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them."
;D
Or are mugs !!
Does your "biscuit" change as you post more here?
You're a quick learner 😊😊😊
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Quote from: Mikey on June 24, 2016, 07:45:43 PM
Quote from: rogerg on June 24, 2016, 03:49:53 PM
Quote from: AnsOnkruid on June 24, 2016, 03:06:06 PM
Sooo... Did I miss anything? I see you're a mod now Roger, congrats :D
heh
"Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them."
;D
Or are mugs !!
heh
Quote from: RoeDent89 on June 24, 2016, 07:47:38 PM
Does your "biscuit" change as you post more here?
Indeed it does. 8)
Quote from: AnsOnkruid on June 24, 2016, 02:56:31 PM
Ohhh my, it seems that my profile here even lists my MSN. I surely haven't been around for a while...
Good to see you, Ans! I'm going to see Steven Wilson in Orlando in November. Come with me! ;D
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Quote from: AnsOnkruid on June 24, 2016, 02:56:31 PM
Ohhh my, it seems that my profile here even lists my MSN. I surely haven't been around for a while...
Good to see you, Ans! I'm going to see Steven Wilson in Orlando in November. Come with me! ;D
You have no idea how tempted I am right now... Going to see him next week in Barcelona! :D
Quote from: RoeDent89 on June 24, 2016, 07:47:38 PM
Does your "biscuit" change as you post more here?
You could do worse than learn from Roger's rise to high post count and forum supremacy: most of his posts are just three letters long ::)
(No prizes for predicting what his next one will be 8))
Quote from: Trapezium Artist on June 25, 2016, 11:51:22 AM
Quote from: RoeDent89 on June 24, 2016, 07:47:38 PM
Does your "biscuit" change as you post more here?
You could do worse than learn from Roger's rise to high post count and forum supremacy: most of his posts are just three letters long ::)
(No prizes for predicting what his next one will be 8))
Git ??
Quote from: Mikey on June 25, 2016, 11:56:12 AM
Quote from: Trapezium Artist on June 25, 2016, 11:51:22 AM
Quote from: RoeDent89 on June 24, 2016, 07:47:38 PM
Does your "biscuit" change as you post more here?
You could do worse than learn from Roger's rise to high post count and forum supremacy: most of his posts are just three letters long ::)
(No prizes for predicting what his next one will be 8))
Git ??
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: owen on June 25, 2016, 12:28:18 PM
Quote from: Mikey on June 25, 2016, 11:56:12 AM
Quote from: Trapezium Artist on June 25, 2016, 11:51:22 AM
Quote from: RoeDent89 on June 24, 2016, 07:47:38 PM
Does your "biscuit" change as you post more here?
You could do worse than learn from Roger's rise to high post count and forum supremacy: most of his posts are just three letters long ::)
(No prizes for predicting what his next one will be 8))
Git ??
;D ;D ;D
Heh ;D
Quote from: Mikey on June 25, 2016, 12:30:17 PM
Quote from: owen on June 25, 2016, 12:28:18 PM
Quote from: Mikey on June 25, 2016, 11:56:12 AM
Quote from: Trapezium Artist on June 25, 2016, 11:51:22 AM
Quote from: RoeDent89 on June 24, 2016, 07:47:38 PM
Does your "biscuit" change as you post more here?
You could do worse than learn from Roger's rise to high post count and forum supremacy: most of his posts are just three letters long ::)
(No prizes for predicting what his next one will be 8))
Git ??
;D ;D ;D
Heh ;D
lol
heh
Quote from: AnsOnkruid on June 25, 2016, 03:22:38 AMGoing to see him next week in Barcelona! :D
Why am I not surprised? :D
Enjoy! 8)
Have just been playing with a new headphone amplifier in a nice quiet room, and of course, Falling Satellites had to be played.
(BTW, Jem: any chance of somehow getting hold of a hi-res 96KHz/192KHz/384kHz 24-bit version?)
Anyway, just wanted to say that I'd never heard the faint whistle of the steam engine under the bird song in the fade-out of Last Day before.
Lovely touch.
Quote from: Trapezium Artist on December 24, 2016, 12:08:18 AM
Anyway, just wanted to say that I'd never heard the faint whistle of the steam engine under the bird song in the fade-out of Last Day before.
Lovely touch.
Blimey well spotted, I hadn't heard that either! What does it mean I wonder. Does this say anything about the year that the story takes place? Is it a memory playing out?