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Title: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: Fogeyspasm on March 23, 2012, 10:17:37 PM
What a coincidence. Two performances of Pocket Son from two Frost* drummer.
I give you Mr Andy Edwards!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLdb_H2v ... e=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLdb_H2vvqk&feature=youtu.be)
Pocket Son towards the end.
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: El_Mayonnaise on March 24, 2012, 08:40:11 AM
What can you say? It's an excellent drumming track  :D

I love both TBE and Blunders approach to teaching/advertising/demonstration. They're both so very down to earth (TBE's accent makes me feel like I'm back home :p).

In terms of the videos I was more interested in the 2box's ability to emulate famous drum kits. Does anyone else think this is genius? There's always a few cheeky homages on synths (I've seen an organ patch called Deep Violet somewhere) so why not the drumbles?
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: Mikey on March 24, 2012, 10:56:19 AM
Nicer

 :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen: :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen: :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen: :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

If only I could play them
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: Trapezium Artist on March 24, 2012, 10:56:46 AM
Well, well; excellent stuff. Reminds me all over again what a superbly rhythmic track Pocket Sun is, although I'm not quite sure I remember there being quite as much cymbal  ;)

And from TBE and Blunders on drums, to everyone else who's ever played with Frost*, it all goes to show what a fabulous bunch of musicians these blokes are.
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: Mikey on March 24, 2012, 10:57:47 AM
Quote from: "Trapezium Artist"what a fabulous bunch of musicians these blokes are.
Agreed...as if we didn't know  :D
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: Pedro on March 24, 2012, 11:17:37 AM
Quote from: "Trapezium Artist"although I'm not quite sure I remember there being quite as much cymbal  ;)
Oh there was, with no Toms TBE had to hit something! The mix on the video is heavier on the kit, so the cymbals are more noticeable, I think.
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: Trapezium Artist on March 24, 2012, 11:49:26 AM
Quote from: "Pedro"
Quote from: "Trapezium Artist"although I'm not quite sure I remember there being quite as much cymbal  ;)
Oh there was, with no Toms TBE had to hit something! The mix on the video is heavier on the kit, so the cymbals are more noticeable, I think.

Well, that's what I meant, I suppose: the cymbals are much more upfront in the Jobecky video, but yes, there were plenty of them in the original too.
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: rogerg on March 24, 2012, 12:37:31 PM
good stuff, but the hearing the camera guy breathing was a bit strange....
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: rogerg on March 24, 2012, 12:40:17 PM
someone with more video acumen than I needs to do a Pocket Sun split screen of Andy and Blunders...  8-)
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: El_Mayonnaise on March 24, 2012, 02:05:58 PM
Perhaps cut out the middle man and just stitch them both together to create The Boy Blunders?
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: lyn on March 24, 2012, 11:08:59 PM
Both these (craig and andy) cuts are fabulous!  we probably don't realise how lucky we are to see it in the making!
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: JakeWorrell on March 25, 2012, 07:08:20 PM
As I said on Twitter, I think the Jobecky kits sound much more natural than the Roland ones based on both of the Pocket Sun videos. I'm always suspicious that roland stick less sample memory in their brains to keep costs down.
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: E.S. on March 25, 2012, 07:32:11 PM
Also funny how two drummers can play the same thing (well, almost), but have a completely different groove and feel. Still, they both fit right into Frost*. Good musicianship that is. They're both glorious and huge heroes of mine. :D
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: JimD on March 26, 2012, 02:54:48 PM
Awesome!  Love the idea of those multi-personality drums and, yes, we are very lucky to see this and Craig's demo together. Drums are just super-exciting these days and it annoys me a great deal that I just can't really play the drums very well (and am now at that 40-something period of my life where finding the time may never now be possible).

Thinking about the different members of Frost* over the years led me to this though - how awesome would it be one day for the double-trio (plus Jem) version of Frost* to be revealed?

Andy and Craig on drumkits.
John and Nathan on basses.
John and Dec on guitars.
Jem in the middle of it all!
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: Pedro on March 26, 2012, 07:18:44 PM
Oh yes, the F* Onion tour is on my list of things to make happen when I win big on the lottery. :)
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: D S on March 26, 2012, 08:17:49 PM
Almost sounds like Thrak-era King Crimson where they had 2 separate 3-piece bands playing simultaneously, panned left and right. Occasionally they even played the same song!  ;)
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: JimD on March 26, 2012, 09:41:26 PM
QuoteAlmost sounds like Thrak-era King Crimson...

...that's exactly where I got the idea from!  The live LP from that KC era is awesome. I always call it "Vroom Vroom" but I think it's also called "On Broadway" too.  I think the two sides reflect the two concerts which of course were made up of two trios each playing...(cont. p94).
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: Drarok on March 26, 2012, 11:54:33 PM
The kick sounds way too boomy on Andy's video for my liking, but the drumming is top notch.
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: BrizzleRocker on March 27, 2012, 02:54:16 PM
Quote from: "Fogeyspasm"Pocket Son towards the end.

Here in fact... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... vqk#t=557s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dLdb_H2vvqk#t=557s)

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Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: Pedro on March 27, 2012, 10:11:27 PM
Cool, Brizzle, you just taught me something. :)
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: Jim Takacs on March 28, 2012, 05:57:37 PM
AHHHHH@!@!   This drove me Crazy! Andy, of all People too!  All I Heard was the real drum part NOT what he was Playing!  Why would he do this!?  It was great, Dont get me wrong... Hell.. Its Frick'n Andy Edwards.....   :D  :D
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: Dave R on March 29, 2012, 02:49:06 AM
I believe someone wanted a mash-up of Andy and Craig playing Pocket Sun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2qNRCjSTZQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2qNRCjSTZQ).

Sshhh...  Don't tell the people at Roland or Jobecky
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: lyn on March 29, 2012, 09:55:07 PM
I don't know if this is possible, but can anyone create this (in audio) with both drum tracks synchronised?  As if Andy and Craig were playing together on the same Pocket Sun track?  That'd be an achievement, and I bet it would sound unique! Maybe it is already someone's WIP...
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: Dave R on March 30, 2012, 03:04:37 AM
I tried lining up the audio when I created the video above. Problem is it's actually 2 different versions of Pocket Sun. I think the version Craig is playing to is more of a demo. There is only one verse before he goes into the solo part. So not possible I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: Pedro on March 30, 2012, 08:51:57 AM
I think I remember seeing on Twitter that Jem provided Craig with a drum-less version of the track specially for the Roland thing.
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: Mooncat on March 30, 2012, 11:31:48 AM
Yep, although it may that they both had the same version but they've edited them after the event. I know Andy had a version just after the album release which had an extended outro - there was footage on youtube of him 'playing along' in his studio at around that time.
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: rogerg on March 31, 2012, 05:08:36 PM
Quote from: "Dave R"I tried lining up the audio when I created the video above. Problem is it's actually 2 different versions of Pocket Sun. I think the version Craig is playing to is more of a demo. There is only one verse before he goes into the solo part. So not possible I'm afraid.


ah, I assumed they had used the same backing tracks. but thanks for doing this!! awesome!  8-)
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: davejmason on May 04, 2012, 10:28:31 PM
Hi folks, it's been ages since I actually posted but I do lurk occasionally.  :)

I thought I'd let you splendid Frosties (and particularly the drummies among you) know that both Andy and Craig are performing at the Jobeky UK Custom Drum Show (//http://www.customdrumshow.co.uk) on Sunday. It will be a great chance to check out the e-kits in person and chat with them both. Plus you'll be able to come and steal free food from my Muso Database stand  :lol:

Hope you don't mind the blatant plug!!

D
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: Pedro on May 04, 2012, 10:44:31 PM
Plug away, squire! :) ...and thanks for de-lurking to share that.
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: Mooncat on May 06, 2012, 05:47:53 PM
Just got in from the Jobeky Drum Festival - and before I jet off to my own rehearsal thought I'd drop by!!
Both Craig & Andy were on brilliant form - nice to see them bost do their takes on 'Pocket Sun' and Craig also incorporated some other Frost* snippets into his 70 song montage (no, REALLY 8-) )
Also great to see Andy back behind the kit and enthused about playing again. The Jobeky kits look and sound awesome.
Andy also mentioned he'd done some drums for a new Magenta album !!!

Top stuff, right now where's my sticks........................
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: Pedro on May 06, 2012, 08:04:25 PM
So that's not secret any more then! ;)
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: Mooncat on May 07, 2012, 01:08:22 PM
He didn't say it was :?
Title: Re: Andy Edwards Pocket Sun on Jobecky Electric Drums.
Post by: Pedro on May 07, 2012, 02:09:45 PM
Well it's the kind of big news that I'd want to capitalise on if it were my project...but I guess this is how stuff leaks. ;)