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Hi Gonzo

I know thanks, I saw that ages ago...but you know what women are like! She demands that they play the track!! Or there WILL be blood...... :twisted:

Hello my little darlings!!

I know I have posted this on Facebook etc, but I have been threatened again this morning by my wife (!) - She said "You had better tell them that they had better play No Me No You or there WILL be trouble"....so here I am....Jem, please, please, please, please ad infinitum play No Me No You at the Robin 2. Is is too much to ask for a quiet life?

Cheers!!!

It's not really the fact that there is a new singer, I mean I love DRAMA so that's not an issue...it's more the way Jon was BOOTED out due to his illness. It's really the same way that I feel about what happened in Pallas. I've no gripe with singers, or anyone being replaced by whoever, it's the way they go about it that bothers me. It's not nice. Yes are my number 2 favourite band but to me they are just dead. It's over and I just wish they would see it themselves. Live it has just become music by numbers, no feeling, everything played at less than half tempo..it's not good at all. Benoit may well be a good singer, but on stage he is just TOO MUCH of a Jon clone. Everything her does is an attempt to BE Jon. If he tried to be mor ehimself then it might sound slightly better. A new album may be good, but I don't really know if I care that much anymore. Certain peoples attitudes, namely Mr Squire and Mr Howe, stink.

I ought to point out as well that this was recorded in 1985 and REMIXED by me in 2010 ( all joining parts, additions etc by me also), all of us in the band had only been playing any kind of instrument for about 2 years, so overall not a bad achievement me-thinks!
Any takers for a FREE cd?
Any kind or not so kind comments??

Cheers!!

Karl

Hi

My "remix" of our original demo tape is now available for FREE on cd-r! Checkout Aurora on Facebook here:-

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Aurora ... 301?ref=ts

There's a streaming sampler to listen to on the My Band tab there too. If anyone wants a copy FREE of charge then just let me know either on FACEBOOK or here.
 Yes that's right FREE! I couldn't sell it anyway, I would get sued becuase of some of the "samples" I used!!!

Cheers!!!

K

Like it!

Certainly got a psychedelic vibe..  I can almost see the oil-wheel light show as I listen! that really echoey vocal effect is fun. and the guitar solo was nice...  Did it go on for 20 minutes live?

Be interested in some details... what synths were used?

Cheers!!

We actually DID have an oil-wheel light show!! Were you there!!!?? Ha ha!! I used to have an authentic 60's oil-wheel projector with various different wheels. I sold it years ago and always regretted it. I have always hated the way it was recorded, it was an attempt at a "wall of sound" which is why  some 25 years later armed with only the cassette of it since the master tapes went bye bye years ago, I have attempted a remix of it. It's coming along pretty nicely so far, all things considered!
Keyboards that were  used, of the top of my head were: JUNO 106, DX7, MOOG TAURUS II BASS PEDALS, FENDER RHODES, a string machine that I can't remember the name of and a mini moog copy type if thing that I also can't remember the name of!!
My remix will have MELOTRON on it as well, eventually!!
20 minutes? We sometimes went on for as long as we felt!! Especially if we did an Impro in the middle of the set!! If you are interested the REMIX should be finished sometime soon, but won't be online. Only on cd-r.

Karl

So has anyone got any comments to make? I'd love to hear what you think!!!!

Karl

Hi

If you have a few spare moments with nothing better to do than have a smile at some Psychedlic Space Prog Rock from 1985 then head on over to my first bands page over on FACEBOOK

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Aurora ... 301?ref=mf

Check out the music on the My Band section, add youself to my friends too if you like and PLEASE give me some feedback! It really WILL be interesting!!

Cheers!

Karl Beeston

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Are you claiming conspiracy? Betamax was superior to VHS in every way, so I don't doubt that such things happen, but what's HMV to gain by offering less product if it's truly profitable?  If their CD racks were emptying every week, they'd get more space.  It's all about demand and the technological evolution of media. I had hundreds of vinyl albums, then hundreds of cassette tapes, then hundreds of CDs. I'm not among the moaners, though. As the format changes, the consumer, sometimes reluctantly, adapts. That said, I'm thrilled that there is a growing demand for vinyl and stores are ordering it more and more. I don't see the same happening for cassettes, but who's to say?

There will always be music. I love and embrace new formats. Kinda hopin' the thumb drive thing pans out.

Yes I am claiming conspiracy!You are right about Betamax being superior to VHS, but that didn't stop them then did it? Betamax was profitable, as it was better and everyone knew it was, but everywhere stopped selling it boecuase the industry made the product hard to get. They are doing the same with CD's. They have put all their money into downloads, which are mostly shit quality when compared to a cd, all you need to do is look at the wave form of a download and then rip a cd to wav or whatever to see the difference.
I'm not against the "digital revolution" I own 3 iPods, but sometimes I think we really have to NOT accept what we are being told. And I truly believe that this is a point in case. THIS IS WAR my friend.

I understand what you're saying. Maybe the situation is different in your area. I'm basing my opinion on my own observations. I still have all my CD longboxes waiting to become an art project for my finished basement when I have a finished basement (note to self: buy home with finished basement). What I'm getting at has to do less with the industry than the shifting demographics of the consumer. CD sales continue to decline rapidly. Hell, even VINYL is cutting into CD sales these days. In recent years, I've watched my music store of choice go from 10 long aisles of music (including stuff I'd want to buy) to 10 short aisles of stuff I'd never buy to 5 short aisles of stuff I can't be bothered to even look at. Most of the floor space is now video games.

I still prefer CDs over downloads, but, like most Frost*ies, I was born in the 20th century. My children will likely never buy a CD (though I'll try my best to give them an appreciation for albums). I just don't see CDs being a significant medium in 10 yrs time. I imagine physical media for music and movies will shift from CDs and DVDs to something like thumb drives. Those who aren't just downloading/streaming content direct to their stereos and televisions will just plug it into a USB port.

That's just my point. CD sales AREN'T rapidly declining. We are just being told they are and then given less room in stores.The books are being cooked and WE are being decieved. Record stores, or should I just say HMV as it is THE ONLY high street record store these days, is forcibly shifting the demographic away from CD's. At first it was to DVD and now even DVD is getting less space as BLUERAY is FORCED upon us.
WE have to decide if WE want the physical item to vanish and STOP it from happening. FIGHT for what we believe in. The idea of only being able to download or stream ( that thought makes me feel sick! ) truly will be THE END for music. Don't take my word for it though, lets all sit around and do nothing and then moan when it DOES happen. It'll be a little too late then.

I still buy CD's. I've just ordered 5 from Amazon. However, as soon as they arrive, I whap them into the hard drive on the Beemer and then they sit in a Sainsbury's bag in the garage with all the others.

It's nice to know they're there. :lol:

 :lol: It must be nice to have a "hard drive" in your car!!! Us plebs however have to make do with connecting their iPod!!

Well....I think that you miss my point. I don't think that the "physical" product IS fast becoming nostalgia. I think that we choose to belive what we are being told by the "industry". I think that "they" want to get rid of cd's and instead go down the "digital download" route, so by telling us that they are on their way out, make us believe and go along with what they say. The actual facts don't show this to be true. Yes, I download stuff, yes, I don't know what I would do without iTunes now (only becuase it helps me get ALL of my music onto 1 device), but I still buy loads of cd's. If I go into HMV anywhere there are still the same amounts of people buying cd's as there ever were, so who's fooling who? I use downloading ( in whatever form it may take!) as more of a try before you buy. Nealry everything I have downloaded I have then gone out and purchased the actual "physical" cd.
In terms of chart success, the main thing that fuels this whole "downloading" thing, well...most of anything I have ever listened to has never bothered the charts anyway, with a few exceptions, so what's changed? To me absoultely nothing.

Well, I agree and disagree in equal parts with what you say. YES, I totally think that if you are making things available via download that they should be LOSSLESS, my whole arguement against downloads is that they are usually such crap quality ( and I don't mean things that have been ILLEGALY downloaded either! Thats another arguement entirely!! ) that when I have downloaded something and decided I like it, I have then gone out and purchased the actual "physical" cd of whatever it may have been and the difference between the 2 is startling! And a nominal fee ao a pay-what-you want approach is fine, although most people that did that for Radiohead paid nothing!
The problem I have with trickles here and there is it's not a coherent piece of, for want of a better word "ART". Todays world of "I want it yesterday" has destroyed and joy I ever found in buying a bands new album. Those days were wonderful..here's a new and shiny 45mins (or whatever) of new stuff, one coherent piece, some moments in time caught forever in one place. So what if you had to wait a year, or 2 or 3 (if your bands name happens to be Rush! ), that's what it was all about, and that's what was so great about the ALBUM. All of that has been kicked up the arse now because everyone has a 10 second attention span and everything is disposable, hence the need for something "new" every few weeks. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against what is being proposed, its just that I think that the album, and for that matter the cd, is far from dead. I will personally rage against the dying of the light..!

Well I downloaded the album so to me it's all one track (well kind of!). They only live up the road from me so I have just pestered them for the physical cd and a t-shirt too! On it's way as we speak!!!

I think everyone on here should check out IOEarth, I can't quite get my head around how good they are...

http://www.ioearth.com/