Imagine my agastment and disbelief at the Peel, to see the rather marvellous JJ replaced for a fleeting moment with Melissa Auf de Mer. Yes, the foxy bassist with Hole and Smashing Pumpkins.
The camera never lies.
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heh
I guess he just Followed the Waves.
A lame joke, I know. ;p
Whoever it is has got a lovely Rickenbacker though!
Quote from: "catherine"Whoever it is has got a lovely Rickenbacker though!
that's JJ!
I know - I was there and saw the wig in all its gorgeous glory. JJ's a changed man with it on.
Quote from: "catherine"I know - I was there and saw the wig in all its gorgeous glory. JJ's a changed man with it on.
heh I get it now!
and I'm jealous that you were there! 8-)
So, we've talked about weapons of prog and wigs of prog it seems natural to move onto....
Uniforms Of Prog
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I am speechless. :shock:
8-)
Nice Rickenbacker :)
Quote from: "keithd"Nice Rickenbacker :)
you
sure that's a Rickenbacker? I've never seen one with that finish before!
Quote from: "catherine"Quote from: "keithd"Nice Rickenbacker :)
you sure that's a Rickenbacker? I've never seen one with that finish before!
finish? I'm not sure he's even gotten started...
So this thread is not about juggling fish then........
Quote from: "Nellie"So this thread is not about juggling fish then........
Could be, if you wanted it to be. :mrgreen:
Not juggling - tickling (//http://www.woodlands.co.uk/blog/practical-guides/trout-tickling/)!
I've always thought that there is something a bit pervy about stroking fish, call me old fashioned. :roll:
Now I think about it there was the stingray pool at Mote Marine where you could stroke a small Ray. I suppose it's like stroking a Fish- there's a Genesis connection with both of them.
And if the fish enjoy it, where's the problem?
Quote from: "Geetar"Now I think about it there was the stingray pool at Mote Marine where you could stroke a small Ray.
Crikey
The stingrays had been de-stung, I vaguely remember, along with a couple of cownosed rays which I think have very weak stings. They'd probably have been de-stung too, for kids to stroke them safely.
Poet (sombre, reflective, holds some memento mori) : "Death, where is thy Sting?"
Death (black cloak, inscrutable, bad breath) : "Some bastid chopped it off, so that some bloody kids could stroke me. What's the world coming to, I ask you?"
I rest my case!
You can stroke the rays at the London Aquarium.
There aren't any stingrays though. Just as well, as I'd have been singing the theme tune all the way around the aquarium.
I have the complete collection on vid and dvd and that theme tune is kickass! Anything could happen in the next half hour........
Bada DAA-dat, DAA-dat!!
Quote from: "RacingHippo"You can stroke the rays at the London Aquarium.
There aren't any stingrays though. Just as well, as I'd have been singing the theme tune all the way around the aquarium.
I can remember when I was about 4 or 5 years old, when I went to the Sealife Centre in Scarborough that's
exactly what I did when we saw the stingrays! My uncle who took me and my Brother is called Ray, and he too stroked one of them. It's a conspiracy... :shock:
Thunderbirds kicks the crap out of Stingray though, in my opinion! ;)
I've just noticed I've been upgraded to a Tangy Ginger Nut! How true: http://www.facebook.com/wall.php?id=163 ... =552434683 (http://www.facebook.com/wall.php?id=1636803399&banter_id=552434683&show_all#/photo.php?pid=1062747&id=552434683)
Forgive the fringe, that's grown out now thank God. ;)
Quote from: "Mouse"Thunderbirds kicks the crap out of Stingray though, in my opinion! ;)
There was a clear progression from Stingray to Thunderbirds. And what about Captain Scarlet, eh?
Prog in all things, we is....
I keep on thinking that the title of this thread is incomplete - it should have "... and do it anyway" at the end of it! :D
Quote from: "RacingHippo"Bada DAA-dat, DAA-dat!!
No no no, it's more like:
datdadat dat dat datdadat dat dat
datdadat dat dadat dahda dadadat
datdadat dat dadat dahda dadadat
(crescendo) AHhhh Stingray stingray etc
Thunderbirds as a series was far superior to Stingray but I love the theme tune to Stingray slightly more than Thunderbirds.
Quote from: "catherine"I keep on thinking that the title of this thread is incomplete - it should have "... and do it anyway" at the end of it! :D
But this is the Frost* forum where thread title and thread contents are supposed to at very best have a very tenuous connection. :mrgreen: :twisted: :mrgreen:
Quote from: "johninblack"Quote from: "catherine"I keep on thinking that the title of this thread is incomplete - it should have "... and do it anyway" at the end of it! :D
But this is the Frost* forum where thread title and thread contents are supposed to at very best have a very tenuous connection. :mrgreen: :twisted: :mrgreen:
Mmm, good point.
Did you know that there's a tank of Garden eels at the London Aquarium? The garden eel, Heteroconger cobra, is a conger of the family Congridae, found in the western Central Pacific from Honiara, the Solomon Islands and Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea, as well as the Red Sea as far north as the Sinai peninsula. They occur in colonies, on sloping sand bottoms. They are known to be very frightened of humans : when one is spotted, the eels will dart back into the holes they live in.
My sons thought they were by far the best exhibit there.
I bet you don't get many of them jellied to the pound.
You'd probably get quite a lot of them to the pound. as they're long and very thin - but they're definitely far too cute (//http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+29+123&pcatid=123) to jellify! And too expensive - about $37 each.
Quote from: "catherine"but they're definitely far too cute (//http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+29+123&pcatid=123) to jellify!
Awww...I like fish.
You're a bleedin' rodent, Mouse- your opinions on all matters pertaining to fish are entirely questionable.
So enough with the fish. Who can find a link to juggling/tickling basses? I'll bet that's more fun and less slippery. :D
Quote from: "johninblack"So, we've talked about weapons of prog and wigs of prog it seems natural to move onto....
Uniforms Of Prog
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There aren't enough words to explain how wrong that is on every level..... :shock:
Quote from: "Geetar"You're a bleedin' rodent, Mouse- your opinions on all matters pertaining to fish are entirely questionable.
Questionable how I can type in fluent British English and contribute to this Forum, also? ;)
Quote from: "Mouse"Quote from: "Geetar"You're a bleedin' rodent, Mouse- your opinions on all matters pertaining to fish are entirely questionable.
Questionable how I can type in fluent British English and contribute to this Forum, also? ;)
Hardly! I used to have a pet rat who wrote reviews on philosophy books on British Amazon. (;-)
Quote from: "Philadelphia"Hardly! I used to have a pet rat who wrote reviews on philosophy books on British Amazon. (;-)
As I recall, he was fond of the works of Meister Eckhrat but was fiercely at odds with the views of Rene Descats.
Quote from: "Mouse"Questionable how I can type in fluent British English
Let me see-you must be using the special keyboard- the one with "innit" , "like wot we done" and "know wot I mean?" as single key strokes.... ;)
:shock:
Quote from: "Geetar"Quote from: "Mouse"Questionable how I can type in fluent British English
Let me see-you must be using the special keyboard- the one with "innit" , "like wot we done" and "know wot I mean?" as single key strokes.... ;)
Not in Hull, only slightly more technologically advanced than Dewsbury
You mean I leave the country for eight years and you still haven't managed to persuade Hull to secede from the UK ?
And as a side-note: when Mouse said "fluent British English" I was using as my reference the BBC English Handbook of Grammar For Turkish Speakers- Yoof Edishun Vol 27¼.
Y'know, the one wiv all the bad stuff cut aht...
Quote from: "Geetar"You mean I leave the country for eight years and you still haven't managed to persuade Hull to secede from the UK ?
There are a team of Poles trying to saw off Spurn Point then they'll start working their way towards Hull.
Ah yes: I came, I sawed, I conkered.
Quote from: "Geetar"Let me see-you must be using the special keyboard- the one with "innit" , "like wot we done" and "know wot I mean?" as single key strokes.... ;)
A hex key, also known as an Allen, zeta, or Unbrako key or wrench, is a tool of hexagonal cross-section used to drive bolts and screws that have a hexagonal socket in the head (internal-wrenching hexagon drive). The name zeta refers to the fact that zeta is the sixth letter of the Greek alphabet. The term hex-head is sometimes used to refer to this type of drive, but this use is not consistent with its more conventional use referring to external-wrenching hexagons. In the fastener industry, the terms socket head or hex socket head are generally used for the driven part of the driver-driven pair.
Some features of hex keys are:
The tool is simple, small and light.
The contact surfaces of the screw or bolt are protected from external damage.
The tool can be used with a headless screw.
The screw can be inserted into its hole using the key.
There are six contact surfaces between bolt and driver.
Torque is constrained by the length and thickness of the key.
Very small bolt heads can be accommodated.
The tool can be manufactured very cheaply, so one is often included with products requiring end-user assembly.
Either end of the tool can be used to take advantage of reach or torque.
Contents
1 History and nomenclature
2 Hex key standard sizes
3 References
4 Bibliography
5 See also
History and nomenclature
The first development of an internal-wrenching hexagon drive of which there are records is that of circa 1911 by the Standard Pressed Steel Company (SPS), then of Philadelphia, later of Jenkintown, Pennsylvania. (This company was the predecessor corporation to today's SPS Technologies, Inc.) SPS had sourced set screws of internal-wrenching square drive from England, but they were very expensive.[1] (This was only 3 years after P. L. Robertson first began producing his internal-wrenching square drive.) This cost problem drove SPS to purchase its first screw machine and make its screws in-house, which soon led to SPS's foray into fastener sales (for which it later became well known within the metalworking industries). H. T. Hallowell, Sr., founder of SPS, in his memoir (1951) says that "[for] a while we experimented with a screw containing a square hole like the English screw but soon found these would not be acceptable in this country [the U.S.]. Then we decided to incorporate a hexagon socket into the screw [...]."[2] Hallowell does not elaborate on why SPS found that the square hole "would not be acceptable in this country", but it seems plausible that it would have to have involved licensing Robertson's patent, which would have defeated SPS's purpose of driving down its cost for internal-wrenching screws. Whatever the initial reason for the change, the internal-wrenching hexagon drive thus appears to have been a logical evolution from the internal-wrenching square drive.
Soon after SPS had begun producing the socket head set screw, Hallowell had the idea to make a socket head cap screw (SHCS). Hallowell said, "Up to this moment none of us had ever seen a socket head cap screw, and what I am about to relate concerns what I believe was the first socket head cap screw ever made in this country [the U.S.]."[3] SPS gave their line of screws the Unbrako brand name, chosen for its echoing of the word unbreakable.
Hallowell said that acceptance of the internal-wrenching hexagon drive was slow at first (painfully slow for SPS's sales), but that it eventually caught on quite strongly.[4] This adoption occurred first in tool and die work and later in other manufacturing fields such as defense (aircraft, tanks, submarines), civilian aircraft, automobiles, bicycles, furniture, and others.
Concerning the dissemination of the screws and wrenches, Hallowell said that "the transition from a square head set screw [Hallowell refers here to the then-ubiquitous external-wrenching square drive] to a hexagon socket head hollow set screw[,] for which had to be developed special keys or wrenches for tightening or loosening the screw, was the cause of more profanity among the mechanics and machine manufacturers than any other single event that happened. [...] I am sure that the old-timers who read this book will remember this period vividly."[5] (These transitional growing pains echo those experienced many decades later with the adoption of the Torx drive).
World War II, with its unprecedented push for industrial production of every kind, is probably the event that first put most laypersons in contact with the internal-wrenching hexagon drive. As Hallowell explained, the dissemination of the wrenches somewhat lagged behind the adoption of the fasteners. Presumably this fact plus the gigantic demand induced by World War II created a partial vacuum in the market. The Allen wrench trademark of the Allen Manufacturing Company of Hartford, Connecticut was taken out in 1943, and Allen became such a successful brand of hex key that many consumers in subsequent decades have assumed that the internal-wrenching hexagon drive was invented by someone named Allen. This idea abounds in print and on the web; it sounds very plausible but is in fact inaccurate.
It appears that the internal-wrenching hexagon drive may have been independently reinvented in various countries. At the least, it was patented in various countries by various patentees, and its name varies, as detailed below.
In France, a hex key is called clef Allen.
In Germany, the Czech Republic, the Netherlands, Poland, Romania, Russia and Serbia this type of screw is known by the name Inbus, after the company that patented them in Germany in 1936, Bauer und Schaurte of Neuss, Northrhine-Westphalia, Germany (stands for Innensechskantschraube Bauer und Schaurte). (It is still known as an Inbus-key—often misspelled as Imbus-key—in parts of Europe.)
In Italy it is known as brugola (pl.brugole), named after Egidio Brugola.In Italy, mr. Brugola (1926-1958) is considered the inventor of it, since he patented it in 1926.The same year mr. Brugola has founded an eponimous company to produce and sell the product. The company, now named O.E.B., acronimous for Officine (Factory in it.) Egidio Brugola, it is still active in Lissone (near Milan).
In Sweden it is called insexnyckel (sex being the Swedish word for six).
In the other non-English-speaking parts of Europe, mainly in Denmark and Norway, it is usually known as an Unbrako key (often misspelled "Umbrako"). [6] This prevalence of SPS's Unbrako brand in Scandinavia is probably related to the strength of SPS's sales efforts there, which is not surprising given that Harald F. Gade, one of the founders of SPS and long one of its head engineers and salesmen, was from a prominent Norwegian family and had extensive social contacts in Norway.[7]
Stories circulate on the internet of an Australian surnamed Alan or Allan who may have independently reinvented the drive in the 1960s. This story may be completely apocryphal, and is not the explanation for the name Allen wrench.
In 2008, SPS Technologies, Inc. formed a joint venture with Deepak Fasteners Ltd (DFL) of India to use the Unbrako brand.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
....choo?
Thank you. :)
Quote from: "Nellie"Thank you. :)
You're welcome....I hate it when they go away too.... :)
Apparently, you have to look up towards a light. Don't ask me, I don't make the rules.
Quote from: "Nellie"Apparently, you have to look up towards a light. Don't ask me, I don't make the rules.
but i heard recently that that only works for some people... or perhaps i dreamt it...
I haven't tried it lately, but when I was at school, people said that if you sneezed with your eyes open your eyeballs would pop out. It's really quite hard to do and I'm not sure if it is possible as we were all laughing too much. :roll:
Quote from: "Nellie"I haven't tried it lately, but when I was at school, people said that if you sneezed with your eyes open your eyeballs would pop out.
It's physically impossible to do it purposefully. I tried it. :) Keeping your eyes open at the point of sneezing cancels it out.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't think the human body's stupid enough to allow something like that to happen.
Perhaps something else pops out instead. Did you check?
:shock:
Advancing years will eventually threaten to compromise some seals and gaskets but, fingers crossed, no such events have been recorded here....
Quote from: "Nellie"Perhaps something else pops out instead. Did you check?
:shock: Oh dear...
Quote from: "Pedro":shock:
Advancing years will eventually threaten to compromise some seals and gaskets but, fingers crossed, no such events have been recorded here....
I'm sure it's only a matter of time, Pedro!
...tell me, am I in WONDERLAND now?
Gosh, I hope not :?