Is anybody else just cringing at this paragraph? I mean this is horrifying.
"And then, thinking I'd got through Friday the 13th misfortune free, I went up into the kitchen and while I was vigorously grating some cheese, I grated the corner of my thumb off. This, in turn, sheared the top of my thumbnail off which I then had to pull out which took a clump of the flesh behind my thumbnail out with it. It then bled vigorously for about 30 minutes. And now I can't play the keyboards as every time I use my thumb, it's bloody agony.
Back to the loopstation then... "
A cheese grater is definitely one of the most brutal thing to get hurt with. the thought of that thing ya know... doing what it does to your skin... fuckin horrifies me. Jem, you've lived my nightmare. Put a band-aid on that thing instantly for gods sake!
:shock:
Quote from: "leelustig"...Put a band-aid on that thing instantly for gods sake!
Not sure how performing "Do they know it's Christmas..." on the loopstation will help.... ;)
Perhaps a large (or grater) sized band-aid on the implement itself would be safer all round. :)
Seriously, I know exactly what you mean....this kind of thing is cringeworhty enough but when it happens to someone who is so fingerly talented.... :shock:
Might have to use a thimble next time or those chain hand armor things butchers use.
Let's just hope that, what with all the new instruments he's been playing with lately, Jem doesn't start getting ideas about mandolins...
how do you pick your nose with such an injury?
but seriously, thats horrible!!! A view years ago i had a saw-machine accident; a kickback of a piece of wood. Ripped my thumb open. It's rather painful.
Hope it heals soon!!!
It is indeed a most cringeworthy injury to think about. Jem, hope it gets better soon!
It's always the smaller-scale injuries that makes us wince more, isn't it?
Quote from: "leelustig"while I was vigorously grating some cheese, I grated the corner of my thumb off. This, in turn, sheared the top of my thumbnail off which I then had to pull out which took a clump of the flesh behind my thumbnail out with it. It then bled vigorously for about 30 minutes.
Been there, done that, got the (bloodstained for authenticity's sake) T-Shirt.
What really gets me about these kinds of injury is that you do it, look at it. think that it should really, really hurt. It's at that point an express trains worth of super highly charged mega-pain strikes. Why? What difference should looking at it make?
That whole "don't hurt till I look at it" concept has bugged me for years......
Quote from: "johninblack"That whole "don't hurt till I look at it" concept has bugged me for years......
Perhaps it's a real life version of the Schrödinger's cat experiment :?:
Oh for goodness' sake! You blokes ought to try having a baby...now that smarts!
Quote from: "Nellie"Oh for goodness' sake! You blokes ought to try having a baby...now that smarts!
Really? I thoroughly enjoyed all the trying.... ;)
Quote from: "Pedro"Quote from: "Nellie"Oh for goodness' sake! You blokes ought to try having a baby...now that smarts!
Really? I thoroughly enjoyed all the trying.... ;)
heh
point goes to Pedro.
He's only getting away with that one because it was his birthday and he's got a bad shoulder/ear!
I think Jem should stay away from sharp objects.
Quote from: "Geetar"I think Jem should stay away from sharp objects.
Does that include his wit? We can't have a humourless Jem...
Fer sure, but the daft git keeps trying to fillet himself (see blog).
Perhaps he should cover himself from head to toe in rubber, or something..? :shock:
Quote from: "rogerg"Quote from: "Pedro"Quote from: "Nellie"Oh for goodness' sake! You blokes ought to try having a baby...now that smarts!
Really? I thoroughly enjoyed all the trying.... ;)
heh
point goes to Pedro.
Apparently, women who have given birth
and who have had kidney stones say that passing a stone is much more painful.
This little factoid has served me (a male who hasn't had a baby [but did enjoy the part I played a la Pedro], but who has passed a kidney stone) very well in debates with my wife re: pain thresholds as a function of gender ;)
Actually, truth be told, in this regard I'm in deepest awe of my wife, who gave birth to both of our kids without any pain killers or epidurals whatsoever. Indeed, I was there for both births and was surprised at how well she appeared to be dealing with it all (even when our daughter got stuck sideways and had to be pulled out with a giant Dalek sucker). I didn't dare mention that I thought it looked less arduous than advertised, but she herself said that it wasn't so much painful as bloody exhausting ... :D
Stoic bunch, these Prussians ...
(And I now expect to be royally flamed by Nellie :mrgreen: )
Quote from: "Geetar"Fer sure, but the daft git keeps trying to fillet himself (see blog).
Perhaps he should cover himself from head to toe in rubber, or something..? :shock:
Like this poor fool (//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fWzXNhfoQ8)? :lol:
Quote from: "leelustig"Is anybody else just cringing at this paragraph? I mean this is horrifying.
"And then, thinking I'd got through Friday the 13th misfortune free, I went up into the kitchen and while I was vigorously grating some cheese, I grated the corner of my thumb off. This, in turn, sheared the top of my thumbnail off which I then had to pull out which took a clump of the flesh behind my thumbnail out with it. It then bled vigorously for about 30 minutes. And now I can't play the keyboards as every time I use my thumb, it's bloody agony.
Back to the loopstation then... "
A cheese grater is definitely one of the most brutal thing to get hurt with. the thought of that thing ya know... doing what it does to your skin... fuckin horrifies me. Jem, you've lived my nightmare. Put a band-aid on that thing instantly for gods sake!
:shock:
Yeah, but at least it wasn't his nob this time :D
Quote from: "Lerxst"Yeah, but at least it wasn't his nob this time :D
This time??! :shock: Do tell!
Basic health and safety would dictate nobs and cheese graters should not be in close proximity!
In fact cheese graters should be nowhere near human flesh at all.
Ban Cheese graters i say!
Or buy the ready grated in a bag. Then someone else has had to do it! :lol:
The comparative states of cheesiness: grate, grater, grated.
And Mouse- what search terms exactly led you to that clip? Enquiring minds etc....
@ T. A. - I'm ignoring you! :evil:
Quote from: "Nellie"@ T. A. - I'm ignoring you! :evil:
Ouch; sorry ... 'twas only in jest, honest injun. And I did say that I was in awe of my wife for having had both our kids with no drugs involved. Egads.
And she'd probably similarly treat a kidney stone with the utter contempt it deserves, unlike big wimpy me. When I had mine, I woke up writhing around in pain in the middle of the night. Clueless, I typed "severe flank pain" into Google and within seconds thought I knew what I had. I promptly called a taxi and went to the nearest hospital, big banana.
Not wanting to repeat the experience has been good for one thing though; I now religiously drink several litres of fluid every day, as everyone should. Fellow Frosties*: I implore you to do likewise, because you really really really don't want a kidney stone.
Anyway, sorry again, Nellie: I just pm'd you and will do so again to beg forgiveness ... (this is the public contrition part).
Quote from: "Geetar"And Mouse- what search terms exactly led you to that clip? Enquiring minds etc....
Someone on Facebook posted a link to the Fail Blog website which that video is a part of along with many other humerous incidents - http://www.failblog.org/ (http://www.failblog.org/) My Brother told me about that one, so we went and found it on YouTube.
Yes, it's really that innocent an explanation! :)
I'm mildly disappointed it wasn't something juicier. You prepared to repeat that under oath?
And T.A.: I make sure I drink several litres a day too. Mostly tea until 6pm, then beer, wine and Scotch 'til bedtime. Never had a kidney stone yet.
Not sure if I still have any kidneys either.
Quote from: "Geetar"I'm mildly disappointed it wasn't something juicier. You prepared to repeat that under oath?
And T.A.: I make sure I drink several litres a day too. Mostly tea until 6pm, then beer, wine and Scotch 'til bedtime. Never had a kidney stone yet.
Not sure if I still have any kidneys either.
I'm not medically trained but would imagine that if you are still able to produce urine then you still have kidneys. If not perhaps you should seek the opinion of an expert. :mrgreen:
There has to be a joke in there somewhere about taking the p*ss....
Wait a minute... Not drinking a lot of fluids increases the risk of kidney stones? I rarely drink more than 1,5-2 litres of fluids in a day. (:-/
That's not a bad amount Philly. You can over do it too.
Quote from: "Pedro"That's not a bad amount Philly. You can over do it too.
Indeed, and 1.5-2 litres per day is a decent amount, depending on your body weight, of course. Depending on who you google, somewhere between 1.5-3 litres is said to be about right, and it's ok to include coffee, tea, beer, etc. in that, at least as far as maintaining fluid flow through the kidneys goes (I doubt excess whisky is seen as good though, Geetar, albeit for other reasons :D ).
If you have had a kidney stone though, the recommended amount is generally higher, to keep things moving down there.
All that said, it's amazing how few people do actually drink 2 full litres a day, so it's worth keeping an eye on. As I said earlier, you really don't want a kidney stone, believe me :(
Quote from: "Trapezium Artist"Apparently, women who have given birth and who have had kidney stones say that passing a stone is much more painful.
I've had a kidney stone and I can confirm that it's absolute f*cking agony. So much so that when the male nurse stuck a painkiller up my a*se without so much as a "hello" I actually thanked him.
My face looked like this - :shock:
Quote from: "Jem"Quote from: "Trapezium Artist"Apparently, women who have given birth and who have had kidney stones say that passing a stone is much more painful.
I've had a kidney stone and I can confirm that it's absolute f*cking agony. So much so that when the male nurse stuck a painkiller up my a*se without so much as a "hello" I actually thanked him.
My face looked like this - :shock:
Nothing like excruciating pain to unite people :D
While I was waiting for the painkillers to work their magic in hospital, I tried to distract myself by working out how many other men in Berlin were having their first kidney stone that same night. Let's see if I can re-create that now.
Something like 10-15% of all adults get one and men are 4 times more likely to get one than women. So let's say it's 10% of all men. There are roughly 3.5 million people in Berlin, thus 1.75 million men; therefore, roughly 175,000 of the male population of Berlin will get a kidney stone.
Let's say for simplicity's sake that you're equally likely to get your first stone on any given day of your life (obviously untrue, but I think it all washes out statistically in the end).
Assuming an average age of 80 (for convenience) then there are about 30,000 days in your life. So, chances of you having your first stone on any given day are 1 in 30,000. But there are 175,000 men of whom this true at any given time, so 175,000/30,000 of them will have their first stone on a given day, i.e. about 6.
Splitting that evenly between day and night, then there were probably a couple of other poor buggers suffering their first kidney stone that very night in Berlin along with me. Didn't make me feel much better, to be honest ... :(
Best lesson I had though was from the doctor I saw the next day. He said "The way to avoid any more kidney stones is to drink loads of fluids. But no-one ever heeds my advice, so I'll see you next time." I walked out through the door determined to prove him wrong, never wanting to see his smug chops again. And I haven't. Brilliant psychology. :D
Several years ago i had my bladder examined with a tube like camera with a diameter of 8 mm.
I never thought something like that would fit.
Just thinking about it makes me sick.
So... i will stop and read a nice book about patchwork. Because patchwork is good for the mind and the soul. And it keeps you away from drugs and alcohol and fags and musicians who have a bad influence on your morality and taste of music.
So..go my children and patch some work!! :)
Quote from: "Bokkie"Several years ago i had my bladder examined with a tube like camera with a diameter of 8 mm.
I never thought something like that would fit.
Just thinking about it makes me sick.
So... i will stop and read a nice book about patchwork. Because patchwork is good for the mind and the soul. And it keeps you away from drugs and alcohol and fags and musicians who have a bad influence on your morality and taste of music.
So..go my children and patch some work!! :)
Hmmm, had that done too once: it's only through that painful experience that I realised quite how misaligned the relevant sphincters are in men :shock:
Since it's early in the day, I'll spare you all the story of how my, err, passageway was anaesthetised in preparation for the camera, although the bit where the cleaning lady wandered into the scene could be viewed as rather amusing in a Pythonesque way.
Ok then. I was so traumatised by the birth of my first son that it reminds me of something out of a Stephen King novel. I had a 23 hour labour so I had to have a epidural as the pain got so bad and I was too weak to push. After he decided to make an appearance (narrowly avoiding the Dalek sucker) I remember being led to the shower leaving a trail of blood behind me.
The second one wasn't so long, only 7 hours and (again) the midwife had to break the membrane. The baby then came out so quickly and with such force I had a third degree tear. I had 2 anaesthetic injections in a very sore place and it then took the nurse over an hour to stitch my butfer back!
Quote from: "Nellie"Ok then. I was so traumatised by the birth of my first son that it reminds me of something out of a Stephen King novel. I had a 23 hour labour so I had to have a epidural as the pain got so bad and I was too weak to push. After he decided to make an appearance (narrowly avoiding the Dalek sucker) I remember being led to the shower leaving a trail of blood behind me.
The second one wasn't so long, only 7 hours and (again) the midwife had to break the membrane. The baby then came out so quickly and with such force I had a third degree tear. I had 2 anaesthetic injections in a very sore place and it then took the nurse over an hour to stitch my butfer back!
Ok, ok; I surrender, Nellie! While I maintain that the specific internal pain of a kidney stone may be outrageous, I'll freely admit that it comes nowhere near the total-war, blood-and-guts, shock-and-awe carnage of childbirth which you experienced.
Something similar happened with our first child, our daughter. It all started off very calmly and nicely in a Hebammenpraxis (a midwife practice, i.e. a welcoming non-hospital place where you can give birth supported just by midwives), but our daughter managed to get stuck with her head turned sideways. After an hour or two of failing to get her properly lined up, there was a mad dash for an ambulance and off to a nearby hospital, where the Dalek lived.
Plenty of pulling and bloody tearing of my wife later, out came our daughter, somewhat squashed looking, I think it'd be fair to say. A general anaesthetic was then administered to my wife, remnant bits of placenta removed in a fairly uncompromising manner, and stitching followed: I was left holding the baby, literally.
Anyway, when we were expecting our second child, we dutifully attended prenatal classes again, but listened to the warm-fluffy-pink-everything-will-be-lovely propaganda spun by the midwife through a whole new pair of spectacles. Indeed, when we dared to mention in class that people ought at least to be prepared for the possibility that things might proceed in a slightly more brutal manner, the midwife took us aside and politely asked us to shut up :shock:
I do wonder quite how many women (or men, for that matter) would go through with it if they knew in advance quite how, err, primeval the whole thing really is :D
Then again, we did it twice and almost 10 years down the road we're 200% certain that it was all worthwhile. (Ask me again in another 5 years though :lol: )
I have had a kidney stone and it was NOT pleasant. However, there weren't (m)any of the dramatics of childbirth which is I think what makes it much worse overall; none of the copious amounts of bodily fluids pissing all over the place, no tongs or dalek suckers, no stitching or stretch marks (you can only hope not!) and no duty to care for the resulting lump in such shabby circumstances.
:shock:
On a happy note re childbirth......I'm NEVER doing that again! :lol:
Quote from: "Nellie"On a happy note re childbirth......I'm NEVER doing that again! :lol:
Well, you should think twice about coming to Devon then: it's rural and there's so little to do of an evening, people end up being very, err, interested in exploring their fecundity.
Of course, as an alternative, you could make sure and get broadband and spend your evenings on this forum. Surely an excellent contraceptive ... :D
Quote from: "Trapezium Artist"Of course, as an alternative, you could make sure and get broadband and spend your evenings on this forum. Surely an excellent contraceptive ... :D
So
that's where I've been going wrong... :shock:
Fecund. Now there's a good word!
Fecking right it is.
Quote from: "Geetar"Fecking right it is.
And so is pleonasm, particularly in the present circumstance :D
I've always been fond of the word lobster. 8-)
Quote from: "Mouse"I've always been fond of the word lobster. 8-)
Is that one of those annoying paper-clip-like help thingies....?
"You appear to be trying to defeat the Word-knows-more-about-formatting-than-you'll-ever-know-so-leave-the-picture-where-it-is feature...would you like some help (blink-blink)"
Quote from: "Pedro"Quote from: "Mouse"I've always been fond of the word lobster. 8-)
Is that one of those annoying paper-clip-like help thingies....?
"You appear to be trying to defeat the Word-knows-more-about-formatting-than-you'll-ever-know-so-leave-the-picture-where-it-is feature...would you like some help (blink-blink)"
One of these is what I means, my friend!
(//http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/11_01/lobsterDM0811_468x521.jpg)
However, I think we can all agree that Word's ideas on formatting pictures is a load of (
insert colourful hateful words here).
i remember distinctly saying to both my husbands (on separate occasions i hasten to add) dont ever let me do that again.
(//http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3190/2650340283_cf8c09bf8d.jpg)
then again they are very cute.... :roll: :D
Quote from: "wickedwitch"i remember distinctly saying to both my husbands (on separate occasions i hasten to add) dont ever let me do that again.
then again they are very cute.... :roll: :D
That they are :) Very nice portraits ...
Once the whole nappy / pram / can't-quite-communicate-rationally phase is over, perhaps when they're around 5-6, things become very worthwhile. Of course, ours have not yet exceeded ten yet, so we haven't faced the stroppy-hormonal-teenager bit yet either :D
Quote from: "Nellie"On a happy note re childbirth......I'm NEVER doing that again! :lol:
I said that 20 years ago and I've kept to it!
I had a camera up the back passage when I had an ulcerated sphincter and then surgery soon after. I can say that the camera was worse than the baby thing...the camera went in and I was laying on my side I jumped and the ceiling got closer ( I swear):shock: :shock: :shock: the surgery was bliss!
I would rather have a baby then have to go through an ulcerated sphincter again
THATS SAYING SOMETHING
Stubbing your toe's quite painful too.
I had one of those hang nail things once. Oh and paper cuts - nothing worse than a paper cut is there ? :D
(I'm off to me bomb shelter...)
Reaching out to grab something on a high shelf can be shockingly, eye-wateringly painful when you've got something like carpal tunnel or tendonitis-type problems.
As is waking up to discover that the disc in your back (that is by now the approximate thickness of a communion wafer) didn't enjoy the heavy lifting/dragging you did the previous day.
Being in your mid-to-late 40s sucks.
Quote from: "Geetar"Reaching out to grab something on a high shelf can be shockingly, eye-wateringly painful when....
you catch a nostril on the tie rack on the way back down.
bleeds a lot, too.
Any direct experience of that, or just conjecture on your part? :shock:
Quote from: "Geetar"Any direct experience of that, or just conjecture on your part? :shock:
sadly, and painfully, direct experience. :shock:
Quote from: "rogerg"Quote from: "Geetar"Any direct experience of that, or just conjecture on your part? :shock:
sadly, and painfully, direct experience. :shock:
Ouch!.......Very Ouch!
Quote from: "rogerg"Quote from: "Geetar"Reaching out to grab something on a high shelf can be shockingly, eye-wateringly painful when....
you catch a nostril on the tie rack on the way back down.
bleeds a lot, too.
I've got a mental image now that is making me giggle.
Quote from: "Nellie"Quote from: "rogerg"Quote from: "Geetar"Reaching out to grab something on a high shelf can be shockingly, eye-wateringly painful when....
you catch a nostril on the tie rack on the way back down.
bleeds a lot, too.
I've got a mental image now that is making me giggle.
It does sound like a nomination for the Norman Awards (Norman Wisdom, that is)....