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Title: As the snow is looming...
Post by: tomskerous on January 30, 2009, 12:00:02 AM
Dear Jem,

What is the temperature *exactly* right now? I need to ensure I'm within the safe operating temperature of my daughter's trampoline.

Thank you.


Tom
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: wickedwitch on January 30, 2009, 03:01:25 PM
well i reckon its firkin cold. but thats on my side of the flats which is obviously slightly different to your, lets face it, more upmarket side of the flats.  our trampoline is still bouncy if that helps.
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: johninblack on January 30, 2009, 05:59:07 PM
Quote from: "wickedwitch"
well i reckon its firkin cold. but thats on my side of the flats which is obviously slightly different to your, lets face it, more upmarket side of the flats.  our trampoline is still bouncy if that helps.
Yep, witchy's got it spot on there. :D  But colder next week. Get ready for Winter MKII.
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Mouse on January 30, 2009, 07:35:34 PM
I haven't noticed the cold, but then I've been a bit too busy to notice. If I've been outside I've been wearing a massive coat and moving to quickly to let it get me.

Are we talking nationwide snow fall with this cold? That would be nice...  :)
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: L33VEY on January 30, 2009, 08:33:16 PM
Is it me, or it FROSTIE* centigrade quite a lot at the mo...
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: ecky p on January 30, 2009, 10:07:41 PM
Yip its going to be a white Sunday/Monday in the East of Scotland.
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Jem on January 30, 2009, 10:21:44 PM
Dear Tom,

Thank you for the question, where you are now, it's officially farking cold. I would head indoors right now for a brandy.
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: johninblack on January 30, 2009, 11:22:18 PM
Quote from: "Jem"
Dear Tom,

Thank you for the question, where you are now, it's officially farking cold. I would head indoors right now for a brandy.
And next week cold enough for two brandies. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Dave M on January 31, 2009, 04:52:09 AM
Next week ..... expect Frost
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: LivingForever on January 31, 2009, 10:23:48 AM
Dear Jem,

Next week, a couple of Frost*ies will be in Edinburgh for a few days. Are we going to die of hypothermia?
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: D S on January 31, 2009, 03:26:16 PM
I certainly hope not but maybe us northern Frost*ies are more used to being cool.  8-)

Reminds me of a removal firm in Aberdeen called Shore Porters.  Written on the side of their lorries is 'Baltic Place Aberdeen' and a friend asked if that was their address or a comment.
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Bert on February 01, 2009, 02:16:55 PM
Right now my weather centre says -0.9C and snow is forecast. Outside my window, the (ahem) pre-snow has turned into actual snow...
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Brom on February 01, 2009, 02:31:17 PM
With a big question mark over when the snow will descend  on Monday, I'm popping down to Heathrow tonite and to avoid any early morning hold ups on the roads.
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Cynthia's Mallet on February 01, 2009, 03:12:21 PM
Over here - it's SNOWING!!!!!!!!
(http://http://thecia.com.au/reviews/e/images/elf-6.jpg)
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Jem on February 01, 2009, 03:23:06 PM
snow in east sussex. it's been a while since I saw snow settling during the day. time to light a fire and have a beer! :D
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Jem on February 01, 2009, 03:26:52 PM
http://http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/se/se_forecast_warnings.html

I love the Met Office, there's nothing so soothing as the shipping forecast :D
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Bert on February 01, 2009, 03:49:51 PM
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/ ... nings.html (http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/ee/ee_forecast_warnings.html)

The Shipping Forecast is like poetry

We are just at "be prepared" status, so like good Scouts have logs for the fire, candles, batteries for the torch, biscuits, tea and sausages... just in case.

The Gable End Weather Centre is still predicting snow and has a current temp of -1.9C, prompting the question, is it now "too cold" for snow ?

Name me another band site where you get this kind of stuff, eh ? Ain't it great  :D
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: johninblack on February 01, 2009, 05:52:12 PM
I'm nearly 20 miles from home, did I ought to getting back pretty damn quick?
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Brom on February 01, 2009, 05:55:01 PM
A little tiny bit of snow here in Middle England this afternoon, skies currently clear with a lovely half moon almost directly overhead.
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Bert on February 01, 2009, 06:38:20 PM
Quote from: "Brom"
... a lovely half moon almost directly overhead.

That very bright star down a bit and to the right about an 1/8th of a sky from the moon - is that Jupiter, does anyone know ?
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Nellie on February 01, 2009, 09:25:36 PM
No it's the space station.
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: rogerg on February 01, 2009, 10:08:32 PM
Venus, I believe.

space station, heh.   8-)
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: rogerg on February 01, 2009, 10:16:23 PM
from the Me Office:
Quote
5 to 10cm is likely in some areas with perhaps 15cm in places,

up to 15cm, eh?   8-)

we got 15 inches last Wednesday:
(http://http://www.rogergrow.com/image/feb12009.jpg)
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: wickedwitch on February 01, 2009, 11:18:53 PM
ok, i was going to post a photo of my street but i cant beat that!  (although we've got a good few inches out there and i do live in london!)
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Jem on February 01, 2009, 11:26:53 PM
Quote from: "rogerg"
Venus, I believe.

It is Venus. And we have a comet in our midst. Low in the horizon to the east, it's pretty faint, but you should be able to see it with binoculars for all of Feb.

Astronomy. Just so rocks.  :D
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: EVP on February 02, 2009, 12:11:59 AM
We got another foot Friday night and everyone is running out of space to move
the snow in our village. The snow banks are almost as tall as my truck in spots.
I'm going for a walk tomorrow to get my mail and I'll take  some pics and post
here soon.
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: EVP on February 02, 2009, 12:15:47 AM
Quote from: "rogerg"
from the Me Office:
Quote
5 to 10cm is likely in some areas with perhaps 15cm in places,

up to 15cm, eh?   8-)

we got 15 inches last Wednesday:
(http://http://www.rogergrow.com/image/feb12009.jpg)

Now that's an AWESOME view you have there Roger!! It must be nice during the summer
to just kick back with a tasty beverage and relax. You know where it's at.
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: rogerg on February 02, 2009, 12:31:51 AM
thanks!  I do love sitting out there, and watching the day and evening and night go by!

I put up a few more sunset pictures (plus some of the owl that's been hanging out) on my flickr page:
roger flickr (http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/etaoing/sets/72157601679561933/)
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: tomskerous on February 02, 2009, 08:58:59 AM
Just had a huge business trip postponed - and have been given a day with the family!
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Jem on February 02, 2009, 09:53:29 AM
And I'm suffering from the flipside of working from home...

No day off for me.  :cry:

That said, I did walk to the village this morning. It was magical. Even if I did fall on my arse halfway there.
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Bert on February 02, 2009, 10:26:10 AM
Quote from: "Jem"
Quote from: "rogerg"
Venus, I believe.

It is Venus.

Astronomy. Just so rocks.  :D

Word !!  :D

I bow to your better knwoledge, but I thought that Venus was a bit lower on the horizon ? Anyway, look out for the comet !!

Weather Report from a little village outside Norwich - no snow to speak of, kids school not closed and therefore, no gratis day building snowmen with kids.  :(

I'm sitting in my office at work and no sign of impending blizard conditions either  :(

Boo !!!  :cry:
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Dave M on February 02, 2009, 10:36:59 AM
Ok ... who's blagged a day off for the snow then ?

I'm sat in my office looking at the snow falling outside thinking about snow men !
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: RacingHippo on February 02, 2009, 11:42:48 AM
Quote from: "Jem"
And I'm suffering from the flipside of working from home...

No day off for me.  :cry:
I share your pain :(

Mind you, if it's really bad, at least you can claim that the path to the Cube was blocked. Or there was a 10' snow drift blocking the door.
I'd need a major snowfall on the landing to block my access to work!

Quote from: "Jem"
That said, I did walk to the village this morning. It was magical. Even if I did fall on my arse halfway there.
Walking Pygmy Hippo to school this morning took a rather long time for some reason. Might have something to do with the need to throw snowballs at anything that moved.
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: catherine on February 02, 2009, 12:13:25 PM
Pygmy Hippo's school was open? Most of the Cambridgeshire ones seem to be closed, so I have the double whammy of attempting to work from home whilst keeping 2 sprogs out of mischief, cooking lunch for them, etc. They'd already built a snowman by 9am and came in because it was too cold.

Oh for a nice quiet day in the office!
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: johninblack on February 02, 2009, 12:25:17 PM
Quote from: "Dave M"
Ok ... who's blagged a day off for the snow then ?

I've used up all my sick days, I'm phoning in dead!

Quote from: "Dave M"
I'm sat in my office looking at the snow falling outside thinking about snow men !

We have about 2cm laying so no great problem, the worst of the snow here is supposedly due between about 3pm and 3am tomorrow. I start work at 2pm till 10pm. I AM coming home, even if I have to walk. I've got a met office radar refreshing every half hour or so on my desktop. Looks like (for East Anglia) the worst is yet to come.
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: D S on February 02, 2009, 01:57:51 PM
I'm a victim of the east - west split of the snow.  Mrs DS (a teacher) and the 2 DS daughters get the day off due to the snow in our town.  It's not really that deep (just a couple of inches) but there were fears of it worsening and kids in the outlying rural areas being unable to get home.

Meanwhile, I have to drive some 16 miles west to work - where there is only a dusting of the stuff and people are wondering what all the fuss is about.  So, no day off for me.  :|

Alan Reed of Pallas made me laugh with his email to the Pallas list this morning.  Although he now lives in London, he did live in Aberdeen (where, having lived there for 10 years myself, I can tell you they know a thing or two about real snow!)

"Public Service Anouncement: This for the amusement of those outside the SE of England.  There's been a bit of snow.. London is closed.  Just off to Sainsbury's to panic-buy bottled water and tinned goods before society collapses."
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: MikeEvs on February 02, 2009, 02:27:08 PM
Quote from: "Dave M"
Ok ... who's blagged a day off for the snow then ?

I'd already booked a day off in advance so that I could stay up and watch the superbowl :D
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Ash on February 02, 2009, 04:34:37 PM
Quote from: "D S"

"Public Service Anouncement: This for the amusement of those outside the SE of England.  There's been a bit of snow.. London is closed.  Just off to Sainsbury's to panic-buy bottled water and tinned goods before society collapses."

He's quite correct tho  :lol:

Anyway - I have the "benefit" of home working.  I had done a lot of a report due in tomorrow on Friday night so I did not feel bad about only logging on for a couple of hours today.  There was an email from the CE about 1.30 saying the office was going to close but people could work from home.  Cheers!
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Bert on February 02, 2009, 04:57:27 PM
Quote from: "johninblack"
Looks like (for East Anglia) the worst is yet to come.

I hope you're right JiB. I've been wating all bloody day and there's still no sign.

Its all so bloody unfair  :cry: Equality in snowfall, I say !!
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Philadelphia on February 02, 2009, 08:56:58 PM
I'm very much used to bad weather and a lot of snow appearing in a short time... And we never got days off from school - despite the fact that some days people had to climb out their windows to get there as the doors were blocked until the plows made it to their flats. Though, ideally, plows would appear at some point and make things easier.

No snow here, though. Not even a flake or two.
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Mouse on February 02, 2009, 11:45:19 PM
The Mouse Hole's Hull HQ is located just down the road from my college, so there was no means of blagging a day off. I wouldn't want one anyways - I love my work!  :D

Snow's now turned to rain here. And there was no-one to have any snow-fun with. Boo!  :cry:
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: LivingForever on February 03, 2009, 12:02:23 AM
Quote from: "Philadelphia"

No snow here, though. Not even a flake or two.

Who'd have thought you'd have to head to the UK just to see some snow, eh?!

 :D
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Trapezium Artist on February 03, 2009, 12:12:18 AM
Quote from: "Jem"
Quote from: "rogerg"
Venus, I believe.

It is Venus. And we have a comet in our midst. Low in the horizon to the east, it's pretty faint, but you should be able to see it with binoculars for all of Feb.

Astronomy. Just so rocks.  :D

Funny you should mention that; I've been wondering whether you had an astronomical bent, Jem (as opposed to an astronomically bent Jem).

Indeed, it has been tickling my fancy to see if you'd be interested in putting together a little commission to launch a rocket to one day. A pretty frakking serious rocket at that ...  :D

(http://http://www.spacetoday.org/images/Rockets/ArianeRockets/Ariane5LaunchArianespace.jpg)
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: johninblack on February 03, 2009, 12:24:20 AM
Quote from: "johninblack"
Looks like (for East Anglia) the worst is yet to come.


What farkin stoopid idiot wrote that? Virtually no trace that it ever snowed here now, the rain has melted it all. It's been raining since around 5pm. I just hope that it doesn't suddenly freeze then snow again!!
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Mouse on February 03, 2009, 12:31:08 AM
Quote from: "johninblack"
I just hope that it doesn't suddenly freeze then snow again!!

I think that's the main concern now. Everyone who drives, be extra careful out on the roads (checks clock) later today!
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Philadelphia on February 03, 2009, 01:54:00 AM
Here's a bit of advice:
Winter tyres, people! They're not so much an expense as they are an investment in safety. And it doesn't have to be the way it is now for them to work better than regular ones, even with rain and temperature of up to +5 they give you a better grip when you drive.

I hope everyone gets to enjoy the snow, despite the trouble it's causing.
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Brom on February 03, 2009, 02:36:24 PM
I got to Heathrow on Sunday, woke up to find no planes, no trains and no way to go anywhere. The prospect of being stuck there not able to make a snowman was rather depressing.

Luckily I managed to get onto a flight that was leaving. There was a lot of hanging about, but we finally got going, one of the few!!

There's no snow here, not one flake.
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: johninblack on February 03, 2009, 05:13:44 PM
Quote from: "Brom"
There's no snow here, not one flake.

None here either, It's all melted and gone.
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Ash on February 03, 2009, 07:36:43 PM
You're welcome to the tons that is still in Sarf London, I like it when it snows and then is gone the next day, like it has in recent years.  The sludge n ice for a week after is very annoying.  WW appears to have suffered from this today.  

Re winter tyres - is there a point when snow like this doesn't normally happen in my little part of the World?  Excuse my ignorance in anything car related, I was quite impressed with myself (but broke) when I bought new tyres before Xmas and that was only because one had a slow puncture.
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Nellie on February 03, 2009, 07:46:51 PM
Quote from: "Trapezium Artist"
Quote from: "Jem"
Quote from: "rogerg"
Venus, I believe.

It is Venus. And we have a comet in our midst. Low in the horizon to the east, it's pretty faint, but you should be able to see it with binoculars for all of Feb.

Astronomy. Just so rocks. :D

Funny you should mention that; I've been wondering whether you had an astronomical bent, Jem (as opposed to an astronomically bent Jem).

Indeed, it has been tickling my fancy to see if you'd be interested in putting together a little commission to launch a rocket to one day. A pretty frakking serious rocket at that ... :D

(http://http://www.spacetoday.org/images/Rockets/ArianeRockets/Ariane5LaunchArianespace.jpg)
I like the rocket idea.
However, if it's Venus, why has it been on the exact same orbit and the same place in the sky for at least 6 weeks? Hmmmm?
(PS Jem is bent)xx
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Trapezium Artist on February 03, 2009, 08:34:44 PM
Quote from: "Nellie"
I like the rocket idea.
However, if it's Venus, why has it been on the exact same orbit and the same place in the sky for at least 6 weeks? Hmmmm?
(PS Jem is bent)xx

Well, if you look carefully, it hasn't: it has been moving relative to the background stars fairly quickly. It's just that at this particular point in its orbit around the Sun, as viewed from the Earth (it's a slightly complicated perspective problem, because the Earth and Venus are both orbiting the Sun with different orbital periods, with Venus catching the Earth up and passing us as it whizzes around closer to the Sun), it's not moving very quickly with respect to the Sun.

What you're saying then is right in a sense: relative to the Sun or relative to the time of evening as judged by time after sunset, Venus has been more or less stationary. That is, if you have been looking just after the Sun had set each evening, Venus would have appeared to be pretty much at the same place in the sky or relative to your greenhouse (or Tardis if you're Jem) for the last few weeks: in this guise, Venus is known as the Evening Star (or Hesperus). However, if you'd looked at the stars closely, Venus and the Sun have been moving along together relative to them.

Indeed, this will continue to be roughly true until the end of February or so, at which point the interplay of the orbits of Venus and the Earth will result in Venus apparently moving back towards the Sun, i.e. visible lower in the sky and closer to the Sun at sunset until, around mid-March or so, when they'll be so close that Venus won't be visible.

By the beginning of May, Venus will be at at roughly the same large distance on the side of the Sun. It should be easy to figure out, after a little head-scratching, that Venus will then adopt its other guise, the Morning Star (Eosphorus, or Phosphorus, or Lucifer), which fewer people see, particularly astronomers like me, 'cos we're night-owls :D

A particularly nice tool for visualising all this is Google Earth, which can be turned inside out to look at the sky. It allows you to run the clock backwards and forwards on a slider, and thus see how the planets are moving relative to the Sun and each other.

I used it quite a lot a few weeks ago when we had several clear nights in a row. I took my binoculars out each night and spotted Jupiter, Venus, Uranus, and Neptune: the latter two are quite faint and very hard to distinguish from stars, but by watching how they moved against nearby fixed stars each night, I could confirm that it was definitely them I was seeing.

Lecture mode off  ;)

(p.s. How do you know Jem is bent? Pictures please ... or then again ...)
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Nellie on February 03, 2009, 09:32:33 PM
Flippin' Nora. I honestly didn't expect a proper answer and now I am sending you a virtual squeeze! Thanks.
I know lots of things, some of them are true and some of them are believable. There is a recently posted (by me) picture of a very young Jem having his hair highlighted. I suppose it also depends on how one interprets "bent". ;)
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Trapezium Artist on February 03, 2009, 09:42:27 PM
Quote from: "Nellie"
Flippin' Nora. I honestly didn't expect a proper answer and now I am sending you a virtual squeeze! Thanks.
I know lots of things, some of them are true and some of them are believable. There is a recently posted (by me) picture of a very young Jem having his hair highlighted. I suppose it also depends on how one interprets "bent". ;)

Ah, gratefully accepted (it's cooling down rapidly in my office this evening)  :D

I've given two lectures today, so was in the appropriate frame of mind, it seems. And given the estimable and highly enviable talents exhibited by very many of the Frosties on this forum, the least I can do is pitch in when areas of my own expertise pop up now and then.

But Jem and hair: should these words be in the same sentence?  :roll: (I speak as someone equally follically challenged).
Title: Re: As the snow is looming...
Post by: Nellie on February 03, 2009, 09:49:51 PM
Quite right! You should share.
Pics are on the "Announcements/I'd like to announce" thread. They're about 20 years old so the quality is not good but they are funny. Johnny Boyes is also featured. :lol: