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Any Other Business / Esoteric Set List
« on: November 09, 2009, 01:18:47 AM »
So, now that the gigs are all over here is the set list from The Peel.

Any Other Business / Video from The Peel
« on: November 08, 2009, 07:34:12 PM »
As the topic said..........

Loosers Day Parade

Please feel free to add more videos to this thread or take it way off topic, up to you lot!!

Any Other Business / Welcome Back Pedro.
« on: November 01, 2009, 07:04:30 AM »
Hope the second honeymoon went really well and you got all you wanted from it. Good to see you safely back with us. :D

Other Bands / Praying Mantis "Sanctuary"
« on: October 29, 2009, 09:27:47 AM »
So, anyone else like me playing the latest Praying Mantis album to death? I've always had a bit of a soft spot for these guys.

Other Bands / Abigail's Ghost.
« on: September 10, 2009, 11:42:44 AM »
So, how can you possibly not want to listen to a band that describe themselves thus.

Sounds Like   A transorbital lobotomy with a hint of melon.

I'm listening to thier MySpace stuff right now and I'm rather enjoying it.

And stranger, I searched the forum to check out any previous mention of Abigail's Ghost and found THIS.

So, your thoughts on Abigail's Ghost, Strange occurrences or anything else?

Frost* / Important request regarding spam
« on: July 31, 2009, 06:38:26 PM »
Frosties* We seem to have had a couple of incidents of spam posts on the boards of late. In the interest of getting these removed as quickly as possible could I please ask that if you find a post that you believe to be spam you "Report" the post by using the "Report Post" button.

This one here circled. This will help us to deal with the problem as quickly as we are able.
I hope that we will continue to stay reasonably free from all this spam but should you find any please report so we can remove it as quickly as we can

Thanks, you lovely peoples. :D


Announcements / We're Back
« on: April 20, 2009, 10:27:23 AM »
Well, the holiday in Spain is over, now just memories but very, very good memories. The weather for the first 3 days was glorious, wall to wall sunshine and in the mid 20's. From Wednesday onwards we had a bit of a mixed bag but on the occasions it did rain it was at least warm :D .
The three main activities of the week were, i) Walking (mostly from bar to bar), ii) Drinking, obviously all that walking required much refreshment, iii) Eating. The food at the hotel was just acceptable, unfortunately you could have as much as you liked. Combine this with the drunkenness and it's perfectly understandable that I came back just slightly heavier than when I went.
I've just been and weighed myself and am rather surprised to see that although my belly looks much bigger and the trousers are a bit tighter I've only put on about 5 pounds, perhaps all that walking stopped me putting any more on.
I have to say a big thank you to San Miguel, Cruzcampo, Estrella Damm and Mahou for the fabulous entertainment provided both from my own consumption and that of others.

Oh well, back to the grind. :(

p.s. I had a beer for ALL of you, at least once. :twisted:

Announcements / Bye Bye. We're off.
« on: April 11, 2009, 09:18:43 PM »
We're off to Spain for the week, don't expect I'll bother too much with t'internet while we're away so see all you lovely people next week (19th or 20th).

Announcements / CRS News - Martin Hudson to resign.
« on: March 11, 2009, 07:15:55 PM »
Martin Hudson to Resign

Sadly after 18 years, Martin Hudson - long time Managing Director of the CRS has decided it's time to step down from the position.

In a statement this is what Martin had to say;

    It's been 18 years hard work bringing the CRS to where it is today and I'd like to thank all the helpers that have helped along the way especially Chairman Toby Horton and Strawbs front man David Cousins who injected cash a few years ago. I could not have done it all on my own but there were years when I ran the mag, the membership, the merchandise and all associated with it on my own with my wife Sharon along side working for a living.

    However, over the years a collective of special people lifted the weights off my shoulder but a lately those weights have returned. Times have changed and I am now older, have two great grand children and generally feel as if I have taken the CRS as far as I can.

    I am disappointed to have to make such a decision but I have always felt that there are many a classic rock / prog fan that just take the CRS for granted, thinking that we'd always be there and the gigs would always be there just for them. We are talking to someone but at this time I am not sure where the CRS goes from here. It takes a lot of time, energy and devotion to make it all work and that has been lacking a lately.

    I spoke to someone this morning - a non-member - that was booking Magenta tickets who said, 'You cannot pack it in' and that he'd have subscribed to the mag etc. if he'd lived closer - he lives in West Yorkshire! I rest my case. Apparently to be a CRS member you have to live in Rotherham except when Magenta are playing?

    I am proud of having Rick Wakeman on board as President, am proud of introducing so many new bands including Spock's Beard, The Flower Kings, Ritual, Rocket Scientists, the list is endless. I am told that I was the first UK person to review a Spock's Beard album.
    Then there's those UK bands' that many had never heard of. Mostly Autumn's first ever CRS show back in the mid-90s was before 10 people and a whippet. Look at 'em now. Then there's Karnataka, The Reasoning, Magenta, Strangefish etc. Bands' like Jump deserve oh so much better support, but .... ?

    One good example of disappointment recently was the Shadowland reunion gig. I have been big mates with Clive Nolan for years and THE first northern show by them was at the CRS along with Jadis back in the early 90's. Sadly we never got offered a gig this time around, something I was looking forward to.

    The magazine has risen from a sad little A5 photocopied thing to what it is today and we could have taken it further with more support. Ironic that the new Classic Rock of Prog mag has a strap at the top of the front page that says, 'The Worlds Best New Prog Bands First', where have they been for the past 18 years? Although that could well be true from this month on.
    One stalwart musician of the CRS is John Jowitt and I can remember him saying that one and all that love old and new prog should all be pulling together. Here, here John but it is not happening, the prog scene is as fragmented as the music genres themselves.

    The one big positive for me is that I am getting out of a scene that is generally 100% healthier than when we started out. Prog bands' do have a chance of playing a handful of venues now, more than they did in 91' when Pendragon were glad of a gig in Yorkshire. Sadly too, CD sales have dropped through the floor and so the CRS Merchandise page in the mag will be closing in the next issue.

    Our last new stock has just arrived, The 2 CD Original Motion Picture Soundtrack - The Second Death of Pain of Salvation (£11) and the Saga Box Set, Live in Munich (£25). Make us an offer for all else on the page! 01709 702575.

    I will hang around to make a hand over smooth and will be at my very last CRS gig this Saturday for Magenta.

    I'll bloody well miss the CRS - after all it is my baby - and all those special people I've met over the last 18 years and there are many of you.

    I am sure some sort of announcement will be made soon regarding the future
    of the CRS and in the meantime I urge one and all to support it 110% especially through these difficult times.

Any Other Business / Tumbleweed time!!
« on: February 06, 2009, 08:08:55 AM »
Quote from: "Who is online"
Registered users: Google [Bot], johninblack

Just me and Google bot here! The last post was 7.5 hours ago by me before I went to bed. I think this is officially the quietest period for this nice new forum and I don't like it. I look forward to hearing news and opinions from Frosties* (USA). I can only assume America was temporarily closed for the last few hours. :D

Announcements / Obscure Clarity
« on: February 03, 2009, 07:50:32 AM »
Quote from: "Various bits of the interweb"
Join veteran broadcaster, hedonist, chick magnet, raconteur extraordinaire and all-around awesome dude Gordon Tanner for Vancouver's only progressive music show, Obscure Clarity. Gordon plays a wide variety of prog, including the classic bands from the '70s, new post-modern prog, progressive metal, jazz fusion and just about anything with scary guitar shreddery. Gordon is happy to take requests, suggestions, comments, death threats and marriage proposals.

Friday evenings from 8 to 11 PM GMT

Frost* - Experiments in Mass Appeal - Dear Dead Days
Camel - A Live Record - The Snow Goose
The Soft Machine - Grides - Facelift
XSL - Pre-Wired - Ombudsman's Nightmare *
XSL - Beyond Within - Sanctity in Emerald's Green *
Iona - Live in London - Encircling
Haze - 30th Anniversary Shows - Mirage
Haze - 30th Anniversary Shows - In the End
Abigail's Ghost - Selling Insincerity - Cerulean Blue
Ozric Tentacles - The Floor's Too Far Away - Armchair Journey
John Martyn - Live - John Wayne
John Martyn - Live - Look at the Girl
John Martyn - Live - Lookin' On
John Martyn - Live - Johnny Too Bad
John Martyn - Live - One World
John Martyn - Sunday's Child - Sunday's Child
John Martyn - Solid Air - Solid Air

* Canadian content

Frost* isn't Canadian content. The asterisk is part of their name.

Obscure Clarity - Progressive Rock Radio -http://

Friday evenings from 8 to 11 PM GMT

I thought some of you might be interested in this show.

Frost* / Pedro's Toys video - The Walkthrough.
« on: January 12, 2009, 07:11:24 PM »
I had to twist Pedro's arm to get permission to post this :D
This really shows just what a work of genius this is.

Quote from: "Pedro the really, really clever dude"
Scene1 Bedroom
Frost* wordsearch posted on the forum by fellow Frost*ie gr8gonzo
Copies of Milliontown CD
Boxes of Jammie Dodgers
EIMA BOTY '08 poster (should have been anyway)
Frost* wallpaper and forum message ("Gig tonight, bring biscuits! Jem x")
Darwins radio
Apple computer
Frost* window cling
"Cleanliness is next to Godfreyness" needlepoint
Red Frost*ersisk poster
2 band group pictures and 5 individual framed photos the last of which, Andy's, falls down and out of the door (symbolising Andy's stopping live appearances with the band)
Scene2 Waterfall
Telephone box (Milliontown cover reference)
Gig poster
Box of Bourbon biscuits
Raft loaded with more Bourbons, Hobnobs and Tunnocks Teacakes
OurHero is dressed in swimsuit and rubber ring
Here Is The News - newspaper poster declaring river re-routed by a rock-fall - explaining why there is a waterfall and OurHero didn't know.
Sign warning of "Danger of Falling Down" - first EIMA track name reference
Classic Rawk magazine billboard - the two stars either side of the word "Classic" are Frost*ersisks. The picture is of Frost* "Outstanding" (in their field).
Posters contain three more track references "Pocket Sun", "Saline" (anagram of Aliens) and EIMA itself. The wedding photo on the Hellay! cover (BTW I first saw the word "Hellay" used by Jem on the forum) contains a simplified version of the Frost*erisk stained glass window that features in the EIMA booklet.
The What Hobbit magazine poster refers to the Forums love of "old prog heads" (i.e. Hobbits) and how they just don't "get" Frost*.
A sign to reinforce the fact that OurHero is trying to get to the gig.
Scene3 Ego thru Chorus #1
One of two "mega sets" shot in single takes.
The eGo catapult offers free travel to the gig.
The HITN poster suggests that eGo is a good way to view Mount Frost*more.
OurHero sails straight into the huge nose of the carved Mount Frost*more likeness of Jem.
As he hits the eyes say "Aye" (direct lyric reference)
and the mouth says "No" (not so clear on the lyrics here - the printed word says "the head say no" but after several listens I'm fairly sure that is not what is sung. I think Dec sings "the mind say "no" but it matters little really. I think the meaning is that the eys are attracted to the person that the song is referring to (so they say "yes") but the more cautionary "mind" (common sense) advises against.
The next line "Reason ebb and reason flow away" suggests an out of control following of the impulse and OurHero is surfing the wave bearing the word "Reason".
The waterwheel is just a way to get him up off the sinewave.
The location is the place "Easy" and out hero is heading east.
The HITN poster shows that the bridge as collapsed in 7 or 8 pieces ("bridge", "7/8" and "pieces" are also musical terms).
The skateboard ride goes down and around, jumping over the collapsed bridge.
On the other side, 4 pictures play on the lyric "sell your stock in jealouscide" by showing "a cell" (battery), an aircraft's yawing motion, a stocking, and the side of a cello....cell yaw stocking cello side....I know, it's awful!
Our Hero leaps from the skateboard and catches hold of a crane hook over the loading bay of Milliontoys & Co. Est 1976 (1976 is a track that got cut from EIMA - the 1976 here is not really readable though, still)
A large Pocket Sun newspaper poster "predicts" tomorrow's headline that a Frost* fan accused of some fraud will escape in a Tardis....a shocking future crime, no less.
OurHero gets wrapped up in one of the toys boxes and is thus good to go.
The lorry crashes into a lamp post outside the Wonderland (track name) Experience and OurHero is released and runs into the attraction.
He passes a bottle, the label of which says "Drink Me" with the letters getting smaller - I did have a shrinking effect lined up to use here but there wasn't time in the flow of the song to use it so the label is still pretty unreadable.
Scene 4 Looking Glass
This scene is probably the one of which I'm most proud.
After the Cheshire Cat eyes follow OurHero he passes his reflection in the looking glass.
He stops and runs back again and again we see his reflection.
On the third pass his refection has become a scary pumpkin-headed monster whch freaks out OurHero who flees the scene.
The thing about this scene is that LittleBigPlanet doesn't do mirrors - so the reflection is purely an illusion created by having two sack-boy characters, dressed identically as OurHero and each controled by a separate PS3 controller, run past the round hole at the same time. after the run-back, changed the second sack-boy into the monster and then edited the shots toghether.
OurHero runs into the premises of "Know-where"
Scene 5 Know-ware thru Underground
The sign "Welcome to Know-ware" is a play on another EIMA track title. The main thrust of this is that Jem reported that the back-up DVDs for the first album "Milliontown" turned out to be corrupted so the back-up was lost. The first part of this scene (and the HITN poster) suggest how that might have happened.
There are several great albums back-ups stored on the shelves here;
T3E, Kino, Eyes of the World, Metamorphosis, Dark Matter, Discordant Dreams, Pure, Tall Ships and Milliontown.
When OurHero activates the man-lift, the ladder starts these back-ups domino-ing which leads to Milliontown falling into the open furnace.
OurHero flees again falling through an open man-hole (like you do).
He falls into the museum and lands on the large Frost*erised UnionFlag that is part of ProgDog's election poster. ProgDog is an active member of the Frost* Forum BTW.
To the right of this is the EIMA stained glass window, again.
the ProgDog poster is knocked over and falls against a steel sculpture of "EC" twice. When hit, parts of this are dislodged, causing the Steel ECs to turn to "rust" (as per the lyrics).
OurHero has fallen onto and his whirling around on a floor polisher which sends him sliding past the Venus di Millio, a Frost*erisk with its arms missing, and five pictures and some scales representing the lyric "carpet hides the guilty dust away".
Car (John Mitchell's Connaught)
Pet (fellow Frost*ie Beano's little beagle puppy)
Hides (some leather-symbol style animal skins)
The gilt "E" (The Golden "E" is apparently an award that blogs can win)
Duster (a pink feather duster)
A weigh (The Million Ton scales which catapult OurHero up and out of the building).
OurHero falls down the steps of the Milliontown underground station
Scene 6 Underground thru Chorus#2
Our hero passes a couple of signs that indicate this is like a London Underground station. The line has three stops; Easy (where the water wheel was), Milliontown (this station) and The we are still going "east of Easy".
Another HITN poster reports that Meteors (from the shower mentioned in the HITN lyrics) have damaged the underground and, sure enough, the train falls into a pit, ejecting OurHero into a pipe of some sort.
He goes down and around again this time landing on the stock graph for Jealouscide Inc. (with 2 green letter "I"s....geddit? Jealous, green-eyes?....never mind....).
The best advice (another lyric reference from Wonderland) switches from "buy" to "sell" as his weight forces the stock to plummet and thus represents a fraudulent act triggering the alarms.
Escaping in the Tardis was predicted by The Pocket Sun poster so OurHero takes the shock and jumps into it.
Scene 7 Solo#1
The Tardis takes OurHero to a stage setting next to a huge version of John Mitchell playing a Cort-shaped guitar. The "CORT" in the headstock actually reads "UORI" which is a reference to the EIMA track "You/I".
John Mitchell's T-shirt reads "I dug the hole" followed by the morse for a full-stop. This is a reference to the morse code hidden in the track "Welcome to Nowhere" where the morse says, "I buried Andy".
Scene 8 Solo #2
OurHero runs across a large player piano which is being controlled by a huge punch-card.
the keyboard is white - like Jem's stage rig - and bears the name "FROST*" in the same Godfrey style spray paint like the flightcase he uses for the Roland FantomG6.
The notes played by the player piano are the actual notes of the solo that Jem is playing.
OurHero runs back into the Tardis.
Scene 9 Chorus#3
The Tardis has taken OurHero to the launch site of the free Forum Air hot air balloon.
Our Hero jumps in for a nice calm ride to the gig.
Of course, the strings holding the basket are not properly attached and shortly after take-off he plummets down and around, again.
Fortunately he lands right outside the Arena (John Mitchell band reference) and runs in.
The crowd are all wearing the new Frost* hoodies and bouncing more or less in time with the music.
OurHero runs up and crowd surfs his way on to the stage where we see him next to Jem on the keyboard.
Interestingly, my stage setup predicted the large red Frost*erisk back-drop they now use and the red Frost*erisk label that Andy had on his kick drum (although Andy's version is smaller than mine!).


What a clever Frostie*.

Frost* / Andy, thanks mate.....
« on: January 11, 2009, 03:55:22 AM »
Well, that's it, all over. No more gigs for TBE with Frost*.

Andy, you are and have been a star. Your drumming skills are superb, your improvisation when time needs filling is always imaginative and entertaining and to top it all off you're a lovely, lovely fella.
I just wanted to thank you for all that you have brought to Frost* and wish you success and happiness with all that you do and given your talent I'm very relieved that you will continue to record and partake in the creative process with Frost*

Andy, Thank You.

Oh yeah, ProgDog says with a little more effort you could be as cool as him 8-)  8-)  :D

Announcements / It's a sell out!!
« on: January 08, 2009, 07:14:46 PM »
Quote from: "CRS Website"
Forthcoming CRS Gigs
Saturday 10th January – CRS BOTY Awards Night – FROST* + Slimmed down Magenta - (Mont) ***SOLD OUT***

This selling gigs out is starting to become a habit. :D

Frost* / More Video from The Peel.
« on: December 24, 2008, 10:37:36 AM »
I'll put the rest of my vids in here so they are all together in one place and don't get lonely.

Ye Olde Milliontowne (part) does be 'ere

The Lamb is 'ere

Some more Lamb is over 'ere

The last goodbye does be 'ere

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