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Frost* / What TBE has been doing
March 21, 2011, 09:27:59 AM
Hi all

With all so quiet on the Frost* front I thought I'd tell you about the new website we have set up for the course I now run at Kidderminster College.

If you would like to have a look...

and there is a youtube with lots of videos, (I'm playing on 'Sidewinder' and 'Golden')

There are quite a few Frost* fans among the students and they would welcome any constructive criticism so if you have time have a look and tell me what you think.

all the best to you

Andy Edwards
Hi Chaps

For anyone intersted here is a link to the track the young people ended up doing...(all their own work) ... MHMwTVE9PQ

all the best

sorry, I meant to say 14-17....
....what are you doing here?

Hello chaps

If you are a budding musician or know a budding musician aged  between 16 and 17 then my college is offering a free day in our recording studio where you can make a track for free!

It's the same studio where we recorded the drums to 'the dividing line'

more here:

Hope you are all ok in Frost* land :)

all the best

Any Other Business / If you like PiL or Killing Joke....
December 02, 2009, 04:09:41 PM
Martin  Atkins, drummer with PiL and Killing Joke is giving a free talk at the college if amyone is interested.

Martin is now a noted music industry guru and he will be giving a talk on the music business.

There is more here:

and the MAS records website MAS is the industry offshoot of Kidderminster College.


Andy E
Announcements / Re: Free Andy Edwards drum clinic
October 20, 2009, 11:35:12 AM
Hello peeps

A clinic is usually when a musician shows off then talks about their instrument and people ask questions.

I will be showing off and playing some Frost and IQ songs but the discussions will be non drum based as the event is open to all musicians (and non musicians)

My friend Gary (who is no relation) will be talking too, on what I don't know but he usually puts the cat among the pidgeons.

Gary is a good friend of mine. He was a producer for many years, he's had two number 1 singles and 2 number 1 albums. He's worked with Bjork, Primal Scream, 808 state, Prodigy, My Bloody Valentine, Catatonia, the list goes on and on.

A few years back he stopped doing music after he published some influential work on philosphy and cognitive science.

I have worked with hime very closely and he has helped me to understand how we learn music and musical instruments.

This clinic has come together very quickly as the college at short notice asked me to do something and Gary and myself were available.

If you really want to know how to play drums please come down. With Gary there it will give another dimension to the clinic.

It will be an informal event, if you come down ask on reception or just come up to the third floor, I'm in room 310. follow the sound of drums...

all the best

Announcements / Free Andy Edwards drum clinic
October 16, 2009, 02:50:35 PM
Hello chaps.

I've been asked to do something for the Kidderminster College open evening so I've decided to do a clinic. I haven't decided what quite to do yet but I may play a few Frost songs.

The event is on next Thursday and it's free!

My mate Gary Edwards will also do a talk on the future of music. Gary worked on my DVD and has worked with The Prodigy, Bjork, My Bloody Valentine and a load of other artists but he now writes and lectures on philosophy and has a lot of intersting things to say on music.

I have also done the music for a series of films he has produced of which the first is up on YouTube.

It's all here...

If you can pop down please do.
Frost* / Re: Eastenders
September 07, 2009, 10:02:48 AM
Hello chaps

(off topic)

I was playing the at the Drum Extravaganza in Hull yesterday. It was a great event and I played ots of fast rolls and got to see some of my old mates.

I was surprised that there was three Frost fans there! I was chatting one and he told me the Frost is quite big in Bridlington!

I was thinking Jem that this endorsement should really be up here somewhere....


quite big in Bridlington'

I was lovely to see some Frosties, it's amazing how far the word has spread.
Frost* / Eastenders
September 04, 2009, 12:15:26 PM
I was interviewed on Radio WM on Wednesday.

You can read and listen to it here...

Thanks to everyone for all the good wishes sent regarding my little arrival. We doing fine and she is lovely.

all the best

Any Other Business / Re: Musical Skill
July 14, 2009, 10:10:06 AM
Well, I'm working from this definition:

My definition of skill

Skill can be seen as the ability to execute methods used to create good music.
The course should develop these skills but also constantly question the meaning of 'good' in a musical context. Although the concept of good is somewhat subjective, I argue that it isn't entirely subjective.

This scheme is designed to develop the following skills:

1)   Motor skill on the students chosen instrument
2)   Communicate with other musicians through different types of music notation
3)   Improvise and Compose (these two being related)
4)          Have a knowledge of music theory and use this theory in their work
5)          An understanding of music theory that can be used as a positive reference in composing and performingAn ability to articulate what makes a piece of music good.

As a teacher I'm working to the criteria of the course.

If we take Btec National Diploma in Music (which is worth 3 A levels) and take the criteria from one of their units we get this:

40 Working and Developing as a Musical Ensemble

1 Be able to form and develop a musical ensemble
2 Be able to communicate and cooperate effectively as part of a musical team
3 Be able to select and prepare appropriate repertoire in a structured and effective
4 Be able to demonstrate musical competency in an ensemble context.

I have always found these sort of criteria a bit vague and they seem to slightly side step the subject of actual musical skill. The question is if my idea of actual musical skill is wrong.

I can see both sides. But in my gropu this year I had a guitarist with jaw dropping chops, perfect pitch and an innate ability with music. I had another that was a beautiful blues guitarist.
But if you use the criteria above you couldn't give them marks for these things. (except perhaps the last criteria but it still seems very vague)

I'm trying to come up with something that balances these things a bit. I want to develop well organised musicians who have a good idea of creativity and have skills that will be of value in the workplace.

Technical skill isn't everything but is it nothing? anyway, I'm gonna go and listen to Allan Holdsworth and have a ponder on these things....

Students that are well organised however will do well.
Any Other Business / Musical Skill
July 13, 2009, 02:09:33 PM
Just posted this on another forum. I know there are some teachers here so I thought I'd post it up here too:

I'm writing a scheme of works for the music course I teach on

(Kidderminster college National Diploma in Music. Read all about it here>
plug plug)

and some thoughts have occoured to me.

A few years ago the goverment commissioned a report which suggested the country needs skilled people and looked to education to supply this.
I agree that this is true.


What would we define musical skill as?

I've just written a definition but I'll post it up later if this discussion gets spicy.

The question I have is this:

What is musical skill? How valuable is it to society and should a we, the tax payers fund establishments to develop these skills?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
Announcements / My new blog
July 06, 2009, 12:38:49 PM
It seems everything is changing.

I have redesigned my blog and I will be updating it regularly. It has been redesigned to cover my music teaching at kidderminster college and the many projects and events surrounding the course there.

There is a short video up there too (which features yours truly playing a blast beat)

I hope to discuss certain musical, aesthetic and educational points there. It's interesting how the current recession is affecting these things. This summer we ran a series of workshops and our own Robin B delivered an excellent masterclass on computer game music.

I really am enjoying it here and I am looking forward to sharing the madness with you here.

all the best

Frost* / Re: Great Scott....Andy fading out....
May 15, 2009, 01:36:06 PM
and as if by magic, the shop keeper appeared....

Hello, I had to chime in on this one...(No you didn't Andy, there lies the problem!)

Everyone pretty much gets what I'm doing here which is nice, I'm basically doing an internet detox.
What Mouse says is very interesting and really sums up how I feel. Just because you aren't available for the whole world on here doesn't mean you don't exist. The internet can eat into your time (and I mean really eat into...hours and hours!) I wanted to get back to using my downtime for writing music and practicing again. That is happening.

There is another point and that is the effectiveness of the internet for a professional musician. Email and file sharing has really benefited music making have access to the means of distribution is great. It's facebook and twitter and myspace and all the forums that I have a problem with. A friend of mine is a big fan of a certain musician but has gone off them following their mindless ramblings on twitter. If you have something musical to say then get it out there for sure, but you don't need these sites to do that. Even as I write this I'm questioning why I feel I need to broadcast my opininion on this subject.

I'll stop there....:)
Any Other Business / Re: Drummer plays notes!
March 25, 2009, 10:13:46 AM
Thanks chaps

I don't tune to notes, I try and tune to shell resonance.
I'm doing a clinic this year on the Bath Rhythm course it will also feature the drum tuning guru, Martin Randscombe. He knows everything about drum tuning and I would suggest his DVD for anyone who wants their kit to sound good, I've learnt so much from him.

I will film some more of these in the holidays and then I'd like to do some on rhythmnic theory.

Ta x
Any Other Business / Drummer plays notes!
March 24, 2009, 10:30:36 AM
Hello chaps.

In my new role as music lecturer I seem to be hitting the same problem with my students.
They are rock musicians so they have learnt by learning licks and songs.
Many of them seem to have real problems in equating what they play with basic harmonic theory.
A lot of the video tutors seem to miss out the real basic concepts that form the fundamentals of music theory.

I have started on quite a big project to produce a number of simple vdeos that try and explain the basics of music harmony.

I have just posted three up on my blog if you fancy a look.

These are primarily for my students but I hope they will be of use to other musicians too.
If these work I will be doing some more in the future so your views are welcome.

all the best