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Ask Frost* / Re: Learning the keyboard
March 16, 2009, 01:11:31 PM
all I know is the white notes are for unloading and loading...
Frost* / Re: Now Not Playing
March 16, 2009, 01:09:56 PM
I'm not playing drums at all, not since CRS awards gig.

I'm only playing guitar, currently studying 'Giant Steps and that whole coltrane matrix thing. That's what is in my head :(
Any Other Business / Re: My past life
March 04, 2009, 01:26:58 PM
Ha Ha....thanks, unlike the rest of world!
Any Other Business / Re: My past life
March 03, 2009, 04:12:11 PM
Well, it was supposed to be a remix, we did the remix for Amar's first single.

We were offered the second single which was 'snow' and did that version but they went with this....
Any Other Business / My past life
March 02, 2009, 10:33:36 AM
Hello chaps.

I have put up some tracks I have been involved with over the last 18yrs on my myspace.

This is from my blog...

As I delve deeper and deeper into my old minidisc collection I have uncovered a lot of music that I have recorded over the past 20 years.
It's interesting to listen to this stuff and survey my 'career' in music, especially as I feel I am at a crossroads artistically

I have uploaded six tracks on my myspace that cover the last 18 years! Some of these tracks were recorded on four track, some in studios; the way we we make music really has changed in that time.

So here is a run down of what is up there...


When I stopped playing with Robert Plant in 2001 I was still involved in production and remixing. I decided to to put a project together with Dan Jenkins, with us sharing production duties and with Dan also singing.
At the time we were listening to a lot of electronica like Aphex Twin and Autechre but we were also into Scott Walker's 'Tilt' album. I think this influenced the strange vocal approach on these tracks.
Usually I like to work quickly but we spent a long time on the production on these. I think they are quite proggy in a way. I know I found it difficult being so anal over these tracks which in the end scuppered the project.


In 2002 I made an album called 'the Twitch' It was full of lots of drumming and wierd time signatures and polyrhythms. (You can listen to it at Lastfm) Here are a few things that didn't make it on. One features me singing and one features Paul Wetton on guitar. (more of him later)
All the twitch recordings have a certain sound that I have always liked.


Between 1999 and 2001 I played drums for Robert Plant in a band called The Priory of Brion.
It was a great band that got knocked a bit at the time for it's musicianship which I think was unfair.
We were in the studio one day when Paul Timothy (keyboards) and myself got a call to do a remix for a singer called Amar. So we jammed some stuff along with the bassist (Paul Wetton again!) and then we dropped the vocal on after. The record company wanted us to do a version of 'Sometimes it Snows in April' by Prince. This has always been a track I really like but the record company rejected it because it was a bit too heavy for them.
Paul Timothy later found chart success with his dance project 'Soul Central'


This comes from the four track days so prepare yourself for hiss!
It features Paul Wetton on guitar, aka Aunty. When I'm asked about musicians I have worked with I often mention Paul as being on of the unsung greats. A monster musician with a unique approach.
I have put this up as a tribute to Paul.
He is currently playing bass in the band Cantaloop. Check him out next time he is gigging near you.


The earlist track in this list, it comes from 1991 and was recorded in my bedroom on a four track.
It features some funky arabic stuff, some complex runs and rhythms and a keyboard solo I recorded whilst under the influence in 19/16. Basically it contains everything that I have been doing ever since!

There is a lot of this stuff and I'm looking forward to putting more weirder stuff up as and when I find it.

If you have time to listen please do....

Ta x
Announcements / Re: Kelly Groucutt RIP
February 24, 2009, 11:33:07 AM
Yes, I'm friends with his son who is a great engineer and works here at the college. I'm really sad for him and hope he is ok.

Really Really sad
Other Bands / NEW IQ Album
February 13, 2009, 10:51:13 AM
It's getting close to the release of the new IQ album. I think it's being mixed as we speak.
There is also some proper footage up on the IQ site and on mine...
Any Other Business / Re: If you are interested...
January 23, 2009, 02:46:32 PM
Some of the pages need text so we have gobble de gook there.

And yes, Gunter sounds suspect. I forgot to say Dave is big Frost fan, check out his band Midas, they are pretty cool IMO.

Racing can come for a one off lesson if you like.... :)
Any Other Business / If you are interested...
January 23, 2009, 12:11:24 PM
I thought I'd let you lot know how things are going in education land.

Settling in at Kidderminster College and we have lots in the pipeline. I'm doing a show on the blues on 11th Feb and we have some drum clinics happening soon too. I hope to do one with Martin Randscombe (the drum tuning guru) and we have a very famous drummer coming in I hope. Also we are putting a big seminar together on the future of music in April.
All this stuff is open to the public so if any of you guys are in or near the Midlands (UK) and want to pop down and see any of this stuff just let me know. I will be putting details on my blog as and when.

I have also revamped my drum school. We have a new website...

if you guys want to have a look any advice would be welcome.

Fanks Frosties...
Frost* / Re: Andy, thanks mate.....
January 11, 2009, 10:01:39 PM
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Great gig last night I thought. We were a little under rehearsed but I thought there were some great moments. Saline was great live, Jem writes fantastic songs of course and they can go in so many directions.
Nice to meet some new frosties too.

I thought we did well in the awards as EIMA was only around for the last month of 2008. I was chuffed to come third, I think it's the first time I have even been thought of. I'm not really a prog drummer anyway.

So, yes, 2009! Here I come. Don't think I'm leaving music behind. But I like new challenges. I have played with Robert Plant and i've played with Nigel Hawthorne.
I've recorded prog rock and speed garage.
Here's to the new!

Ta Ta
Any Other Business / Re: Prog on the BBC - 2nd Jan BBC4
January 03, 2009, 09:15:35 AM
'brick' was written to take the mick put of prog.
I didn't bother watching it. 'progressive' is a term that does no one any favours.
A band like yes are seen as a bit of a joke where as led zep are seen as close to god.
Zep have had their proggy moments but never got the prog tag.
Most music critics know jack IMO.
Any Other Business / Re: The shape of prog to come
January 01, 2009, 08:47:33 PM
It's not a question of improvisation. My basic point was that progressive bands may actually have to become progressive over the next few years.

The question of improvisation in rock music; well, Cream, Zep, Hendrix, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, The Doors, Yes, Crimson, The Police etc improvised a lot live. I think this too is missing from modern prog. Of course when someone goes to see Simply Red they want to hear hits but in prog your supposed to push the boat out a bit aren't you?
But my basic point is...

Why is prog treated like a bit of a joke when in it's original form it pioneered so much stuff in the broadening of Rock Music, so much so you can't think of a chart act from the 80's that weren't a teeny weeny bit influenced by prog?

And additionally, do modern prog bands need to be more 'progressive', especially as we leave the post modernist period behind and enter a new cultural realm?
Any Other Business / Re: The shape of prog to come
December 31, 2008, 03:36:24 PM
Quote from: "DannySoisSage"I think Bill Bruford is totally on when he talks about this; his opinion was that the very notion of 'rock' music was incomprehensible in the sense that you write some songs then go out and play them the exact same way for a year, come home, write some more, then go out and play them the exact same way for a year. I think he said to the interviewer 'imagine if we had this exact same conversation every night for the next year in different places across the world, imagine how horrible that would be' something like that anyway.

This pretty much sums up my thoughts at the moment and why I'm bowing out of gigging.
If I'm going to get out and play live I want to be able to improvise, to create something doesn't exist on a CD somewhere. I know fans want to hear an accurate recital but it doesn't interest me, I'm with Bill on that.

As for the collapse of the music business, well we have seen major banks collapse over the past few months. A business that sells what you can get for free on the net won't last long in a recession IMO. We will see....
Any Other Business / Re: The shape of prog to come
December 31, 2008, 02:18:39 PM
John Mitchell once came up with the phrase 'tricky rock' to describe modern prog.

For me progressive rock is about pushing the envelope of what rock music is.
It's never been about musicianship for me. The great prog musicians are great because of the way they bring their personality to the instrument. Think of Robert Fripp or Bill Bruford and you can hear in your mind their personality.

As far as virtuosity is concerned prog musicians are nothing next a jazz musician.
I'd like to see Rick Wakeman improvise this through the changes of 'All the things you are' like this

That's a real virtuoso in my book.

The musicianship tag is part of the problem with modern prog. It's become about accessible music that displays surface virtuosity, rather than seeking to push the envelope of the rock n roll genre.

What is interesting with Frost on 'Experiments...' is that the album pushes the envelope of what prog fans think prog is. Some proggers can't decide if it's prog or not...

'Songs about time travel? wierd time signatures? mad keyboard solos? tracks that last 16 minutes? Is this prog or not? How can it be when it contains...gasp...HOOKS?'

He He...