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The Forget You Song - sound issues
« on: July 14, 2009, 10:13:56 AM »
I was listening to this song on the Frost*fest CD, and I can't help but notice something weird in the sound. It sounds to me like there's bad MP3 encoding on this. Like a low bitrate. It's not as bad as the version on MySpace, but there's definitely something weird there.

Now I'm listening again, and it almost sounds as if this was intentional. The vocals sound much cleaner and crisper. I don't know if this is because they're in a different range, and the MP3 compression doesn't affect it. It's very noticeable on the cymbals. They sound more thrashy than usual. It's pretty annoying imo.

Maybe it's just me hearing odd things. The rest of the cd sounds great, and so do the rest of my mp3's.

Anyone else noticing this?

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Re: The Forget You Song - sound issues
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2009, 11:18:58 PM »
I don't think it's data compression like MP3, I think it's extreme audio compression applied as an effect.
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Re: The Forget You Song - sound issues
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2009, 12:42:24 PM »
Yeah I noticed it, I was expecting something brighter than the myspace version, but it is kinda flat.

I'm pretty sure the drums are Jem+BFD, as Andy didn't record drums for this one.

Neat little song but.

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Re: The Forget You Song - sound issues
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2009, 03:37:04 PM »
I would go for Jem + Addictive Drums.
The sound is typically Addictive Drums Startup Kit (very impressive kit)

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Re: The Forget You Song - sound issues
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2009, 12:22:25 AM »
I think it's a tuba.
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Re: The Forget You Song - sound issues
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2009, 01:48:43 AM »
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Re: The Forget You Song - sound issues
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2009, 03:09:29 PM »
i dont know why people are saying it sounds bad/annoying, i think the production is awesome on that song. it's a bit more raw and less produced but i think it fits the song.
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Re: The Forget You Song - sound issues
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2009, 03:14:03 PM »
I like the raw part, and the overall production, but the thrashy compression sound puts me off a bit. Especially after the AMAZING quality/mix/production of the live tracks.

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Re: The Forget You Song - sound issues
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2009, 04:14:00 PM »
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i dont know why people are saying it sounds bad/annoying, i think the production is awesome on that song. it's a bit more raw and less produced but i think it fits the song.
I totally agree with that. With regards to the live songs I seem to remember Jem saying this was his first go at mixing a live album. Sir, ya bleedin' nailed it. :D
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Re: The Forget You Song - sound issues
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2009, 03:15:38 PM »
Werd. Nick's drum sound is especially wonderful.

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Re: The Forget You Song - sound issues
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2009, 09:19:03 PM »
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I would go for Jem + Addictive Drums.
The sound is typically Addictive Drums Startup Kit (very impressive kit)

How did I not spot this. I use addictive drums like everyday.

I always thought that startup kit was ridiculously overcompressed (and the the compressor in AD is reeeally bad) and I thought the same thing when I heard this song for the first time. Make your own presets jem :p.

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Re: The Forget You Song - sound issues
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2009, 12:39:07 AM »
You're right of course. Apologies. It was largely down to budgetary constraints. I'd rather the music was out there even in rudimentary form, especially as we did it live at RosFest. But clearly the hoo hah has proved me otherwise. Sorry about that mate.

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Re: The Forget You Song - sound issues
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2009, 01:10:33 AM »
Well rudimentary is still leagues above nothing at all :D. Plus its always interesting to hear the demo/album version transformation.

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Re: The Forget You Song - sound issues
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2009, 02:00:52 AM »
No more demos for that man, remove him from the mailing list.

The rest of us can still play, right? :)

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Re: The Forget You Song - sound issues
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2009, 02:56:21 AM »
Am I the only one here who's amazed you can do drums like that on a keyboard? It's brilliant! I would never have guessed it wasn't a physical kit. You have a skill there Jem (one of very many), and it's one I wish I had because it would make my work so much easier.

In my opinion, it doesn't matter what makes the sounds or where those sounds come from, as long as it sounds great and, in the case of TFYS rocks like a b*stard, that's all that matters to me!  :D

For the record, I'm not a drummer, so my comments above are free to be disposed of and spat at by those fluent with the sticks.  ;)