A Doorway Open Wide...

[DannySoisSage]

Jem the mastering thing is an awesome idea, even as an option; if you don't use it it's another skill you have and something that might come in useful one day!

As for the rest of it, I'm pretty much open to whatever Jem feels will work best. If you want to do something like the Inner Circle then I'd be in, although I'd rather not have the secrecy that goes with that particular group personally, I find it a bit annoying and also the fact that nobody else can get the stuff thats released into it. If it was more of a mailing list type of thing where we get a download of tracks every couple of months and maybe a CD or a discounted option to buy a CD at the end, I can imagine that would attract a lot of people, but alongside a standard download service. If you could do it through the Frost* store I'd personally prefer buying it direct from you Jem, making an album on your own will surely be a very expensive process so I'd rather know all my money was going towards that and not to lining others pockets first. If the only way to do that is to release a CD-R to post out then I will pay whatever extra you have to in order to make that happen, I think that would be seriously cool just to get a scribbled on CD-R through the post.

Lots of ideas mate, I hope you've got your head straight cos this is all rather confusing lol

[gav]

I like the idea of you not really having any solid deadlines, Jem, and i think that for the majority of people these days, the whole downloady thing would work really well, but i would probably be inclined to save my pennies until the songs have taken a more traditional album format and just buy the whole lot then and there- i think the "best of both worlds" idea would work really well, as long as the final album would be easy enough to get hold of.

Cheers Jem :mrgreen:

[RWA]

I like the idea a lot but without the "pay for it upfront" part for the exact reason Pedro described. It would give the same amount of pressure then a label deal.

I don't really care about CD's anymore. I do have a crapload of them and still pick up some to support the artist/band (like Frost* obviously) but honestly I rip them to have on my MP3 player/i-POD and PC and I hardly ever touch the "physical" project again. The booklet is browsed once by me to never come out of the CD trace ever again. I mean it's the music that counts, isn't it?

I'm all for paying for high quality mp3's (320kbps) or whatever format you prefer (offering multiple formats would be perfect) and just pay for those you're interested in. That's the beauty of places like iTunes. One can leave out the songs you don't like (after checking out the low quality version (128 kbps or lower).

Hmmm... you could also fill every "sample" version of a song with madness, like with the "Wonderland Instrumental" track.... screaming SAMPLE!!! every 4.26 second or so.  

On second though........  forget that last option. I prefer the "mad" version of that song to the original album version. I would never have to pay for another Frost* song again! :lol:

[RacingHippo]

I love the idea meself.
And yes, I'd more than happily pay/donate/whatever per track.

As for the... erm...  concept of a concept album - Simples! We get the pieces of the jigsaw one at a time, and it's only when we get the last piece(s) that we get to see the Big Picture.
The whole's bigger than the sum of its wossnames, innit.
And then it can be released as a physical product. Maybe with a discount to those who've already coughed up for the individual tracks (i.e. helped to fund the project).

Here's another possibility...
I have (as, I'm sure, do several other saddoes) a folder on my 'puter labelled "Creatures of Distinction" into which are bunged the tracks that have been released under that general concept.
That could be an "album" with a finite number of tracks in it. But why should it be limited?
Frinstance. What if, in 2023, having released the "album" (to critical acclaim, of course) in 2016, Jem comes up with a cracking song about a cyborg seagull? It's too late. The horse (of distinction, natch) has bolted.
But a "collection", released as-and-when, piecemeal, has no such limits.

Also: Gotta catch 'em all...

[DannySoisSage]

Be careful there Hippo, you know where that leads... 'this song is from album 3.1, the one about a talented but errant tree surgeon called to jury duty in the Maldives; the next is from album 3.4.5, thats the six disc epic about the rotation of chickens in supermarket delicatessens; and the last one is a 45 minute epic to end album 3.2, dealing with the heady subject of making cheese from ostrich milk'.

 :shock:

[RWA]

Be careful there Hippo, you know where that leads... 'this song is from album 3.1, the one about a talented but errant tree surgeon called to jury duty in the Maldives; the next is from album 3.4.5, thats the six disc epic about the rotation of chickens in supermarket delicatessens; and the last one is a 45 minute epic to end album 3.2, dealing with the heady subject of making cheese from ostrich milk'.

 :shock:

:lol:

[gr8gonzo]

I've always rather fancied me an ost-er-ich.

[rogerg]

I've always rather fancied me an ost-er-ich.

have you got one there for my enjoyment?

[rogerg]

jem, you make song, me buy.  you make bunch of songs, put onto cd, I buy.  you make songs, me happy.

[Brodie]

Hello to one and all....I'm Brodie from the IB forum . I'm with Roger and his most eloquent summary of the situation. Just an idea for the eventual cd  of  collected new material, however long it takes to amass; Remaster all of the tracks (to give the collection a common sonic signature) and write some cunning links between each song to suggest that it just might be a concept album after all.

Brodie

[rogerg]

hey brodie!! welcome, and grab a biscuit!

[Mickdoo22]

However, and whatever form any new material comes in, I will be thrilled!  I too am from the days of the whole experience of finally getting a copy of a long awaited new album, tearing it open, absorbing the album in its entirety while reading the liner notes/credits, etc...  But given progress and technology, those days are soon to be long gone.  So I will change with the tide and take any new Frost music however I can get it.
As for what that content may or may not be....I may get toasted for this opinion, but I am just hoping it is truly Frost in some semblance......I have never been a huge fan of projects in the whole TDL vein in terms of guest musicians or music by committee......guest pan flute solos, special appearance on bonerphone by.....those type of projects.  In most cases they lack some of the cohesive elements that make a band a band.   I find TDL much less Frosty than the two albums to a degree.  (though still very enjoyable).  That said......I realize Frost has always been about stretching the limits.....and the one thing I have learned well as a fan is to expect the completely unexpected.....so bring it on!

[RWA]

jem, you make song, me buy.  you make bunch of songs, put onto cd, I buy.  you make songs, me happy.

That about sums it up all right. Thanks for that Roger!  

[Claudio]

jem, you make song, me buy.  you make bunch of songs, put onto cd, I buy.  you make songs, me happy.

Oh Lord, always saying the correct words  
Is too simple for everyone.

[Jem]

Hello to one and all....I'm Brodie from the IB forum . I'm with Roger and his most eloquent summary of the situation. Just an idea for the eventual cd  of  collected new material, however long it takes to amass; Remaster all of the tracks (to give the collection a common sonic signature) and write some cunning links between each song to suggest that it just might be a concept album after all.

Brodie

Hello mate. Welcome aboard. That is a GREAT idea. Inspired no less.  

Consider it done.