Frost* Christmas 2011 AGM - The Peel, Kingston. 16th Dec

Nellie · December 18, 2011, 02:10:46 PM

Great gig, couldn't see a thing but I'm sure it was :lol:
Lovely to see soooooooooo many Frost*ies and have a quick chat with some of you. I can't believe I came home with Frost*ie biscuits!
I've put the few remaining AGM t-shirts on The Merch Desk shop if anyone didn't get one and wants one.
Lastly, thanks to L33vey for the Crabbies

@T.A. It wouldn't have been Craig's dad as he is no longer with us.

JakeWorrell · December 18, 2011, 02:27:37 PM

And of course, excellent work with the merch desk as usual Nellie!

Mikey · December 18, 2011, 02:31:32 PM

Quote from: "Mouse"I think it's so they can sing more comfortably and don't have to trap their nads in order to reach Dec's pitches on the songs that feature the good man.

Doesn't stop Nathan having a good old gurn though

Trapezium Artist · December 18, 2011, 02:32:06 PM

Quote from: "Nellie"@T.A. It wouldn't have been Craig's dad as he is no longer with us.

Ah ... will amend my post. Any idea who then? I suspect that it was someone (along with partner) who had come to the gig to see him play in particular, rather than Frost*, as they had seemed to be having a nice chat after the gig, as well as exchanging hugs.

And of course, the obvious point missing from my Lordoftheringslength post was 0. Nellie, without whose tireless work we'd have been without our t-shirts, biscuits (none ever made its way to me

), and much, much affection. What a lovely person you are ... will upload my picture of you soon ...

JakeWorrell · December 18, 2011, 03:01:52 PM

Quote from: "E.S."Just to be a little geeky for a moment... I noticed this at the gig, it's the curse of so called perfect pitch.. did anyone notice they have tuned down a half step? Why is that?

No way, how could you possibly notice that? I would pay good money for those skills! To me all pitch is relative.

I would imagine that mouse is right. Some of those parts Dec sang are ridiculous. I really struggle singing that "now you finally know what it means" part in wonderland. Doesn't stop me trying though, when no-one is around.

JakeWorrell · December 18, 2011, 03:03:15 PM

Quote from: "Trapezium Artist"will upload my picture of you soon ...

oo err, Keep it clean! :lol:

E.S. · December 18, 2011, 03:11:09 PM

Quote from: "JakeWorrell"
Quote from: "E.S."Just to be a little geeky for a moment... I noticed this at the gig, it's the curse of so called perfect pitch.. did anyone notice they have tuned down a half step? Why is that?

No way, how could you possibly notice that? I would pay good money for those skills! To me all pitch is relative.

I would imagine that mouse is right. Some of those parts Dec sang are ridiculous. I really struggle singing that "now you finally know what it means" part in wonderland. Doesn't stop me trying though, when no-one is around.

I don't know, it just developed over time. It also helps to have heard the songs a thousand times, notice the difference in tone when the pitch is lower etc.

And yes, that's a good reason. I guess that's why we didn't get Toys. :mrgreen:

Fogeyspasm · December 18, 2011, 03:25:45 PM

Played the video to Cameron and the first thing he said is theve lowered the key of the tracks, and hes only 13!
I didn't notice though cos im not gifted with such talents although i can tell when my guitars out of tune!

Dena · December 18, 2011, 03:50:41 PM

To repeat what Nells said, it sounded like a good gig, but I was unable to get anywhere near the room, so had to spend the gig sitting at the back of the bar :x

Nevertheless, it was lovely to see so many Frost*ies and had a good old laugh at the post-gig curry.

Dena · December 18, 2011, 03:51:54 PM

Actually, to clarify, I wasn't literally laughing at the curry. I'm sure you know what I mean....

sawtooth · December 18, 2011, 06:03:13 PM

Quote from: "Dena"Actually, to clarify, I wasn't literally laughing at the curry. I'm sure you know what I mean....

Iv'e seen stranger things happen at a Frost* gig Dena .....
I saw you sitting in the back room with a resigned look on your face re the visibility issue and I was feeling pretty much the same way, which IS unusual for me at a Frost* gig. I don't generally have problems getting a good vantage point despite my average height (for a prog fan

) but I had to throw in the towel this time! And Mrs S is a petite 4'10" so she had no chance from the outset :cry:

But as others have said - take the evening as a whole and it was one to remember with a grin

Pedro · December 18, 2011, 06:50:02 PM

It is a shame that the layout of The Peel does this when it's full. I guess the only answer is to limit the numbers to 200 or so...but even then the low stage will still leave people unable to see that well. Plus I guess this would adjust the financials a bit.

I am currently having my usual pangs of guilt that follow most gigs where people have cause to complain about being unable to see well (or at all).

I have said it before and I'll repeat it here...I know I'm a big chap and I do bear this in mind when choosing where to stand. I never intentionally stand in front of people - so I don't "push in" or deliberately move in front of people who are already in place. I try to get there early, get my "to-one-side" spot and stay put. So if you ended-up behind me, that is exactly what happened, I didn't do it to you on purpose.

Getting there early and "playing the queue" well, usually enables me to get my much shorter wife and daughter close to or even at the front, but rather than make for the centre of the stage I always steer us to one side or the other.

I like to stand with my shorter companions because a) I like to enjoy the gig with them (not unreasonable in my opinion) and b) this protects them from the bumping/jostling they would endure otherwise (case in point; I let a chap stand in front of me for the last songs on Friday and all he did was lean on Mrs P and bump her with his elbows - he was obviously enjoying himself but Mrs P consequently wasn't so much).

So, once again, sorry if I was in your way on Friday night. I hope you can see from the above that this is not because I am a thoughtless basket....

I also hope that the video clips that are emerging can help to offset some of the disappointment for the "other-roomers".

D S · December 18, 2011, 06:52:10 PM

That's us back home in Scotland again and just catching up on the posts. What a great night!

It was more like having 4 ridiculously talented musos just having a laugh and playing some songs in your front room than some deadly serious prog gig - and much the better for it.
Pedro - thanks for capturing Don't You Want Me. Definitely one of the highlights of the night. :lol:
Nice to catch up with many of you again, even if only briefly, and great to say hi to some Frost*ies I'd not met before (e.g. Geetar).
Really enjoyed hearing some tracks live for the first time (No Me No You and Saline). Anorak question - was that the UK live premiere for No Me No You? I know it was played at RosFest but I'm not sure it's been played this side of the pond. Anyway, it rawked!

Roll on the next gigs.

Jem · December 19, 2011, 02:04:05 AM

Quote from: "E.S."Just to be a little geeky for a moment... I noticed this at the gig, it's the curse of so called perfect pitch.. did anyone notice they have tuned down a half step? Why is that?

It's a voice preservation thing. I (for better of for worse) don't record stuff with the thought of how to do it live, ergo I blat it at maximum capacity on the records so i can the best out of myself. Dropping the set a semitone means I can largely replicate the album repeatedly should the situation arise.

You'll find the same happens at an It Bites gig.

Jem · December 19, 2011, 02:08:38 AM

Quote from: "Pedro"It is a shame that the layout of The Peel does this when it's full. I guess the only answer is to limit the numbers to 200 or so...but even then the low stage will still leave people unable to see that well. Plus I guess this would adjust the financials a bit.

I am currently having my usual pangs of guilt that follow most gigs where people have cause to complain about being unable to see well (or at all).

I have said it before and I'll repeat it here...I know I'm a big chap and I do bear this in mind when choosing where to stand. I never intentionally stand in front of people - so I don't "push in" or deliberately move in front of people who are already in place. I try to get there early, get my "to-one-side" spot and stay put. So if you ended-up behind me, that is exactly what happened, I didn't do it to you on purpose.

Getting there early and "playing the queue" well, usually enables me to get my much shorter wife and daughter close to or even at the front, but rather than make for the centre of the stage I always steer us to one side or the other.

I like to stand with my shorter companions because a) I like to enjoy the gig with them (not unreasonable in my opinion) and b) this protects them from the bumping/jostling they would endure otherwise (case in point; I let a chap stand in front of me for the last songs on Friday and all he did was lean on Mrs P and bump her with his elbows - he was obviously enjoying himself but Mrs P consequently wasn't so much).

So, once again, sorry if I was in your way on Friday night. I hope you can see from the above that this is not because I am a thoughtless basket....

I also hope that the video clips that are emerging can help to offset some of the disappointment for the "other-roomers".

Nothing against Twang the absolutely superb job he's done at The Peel, but I don't think we can play there again. We were dying on stage from the heat and I could see everybody fanning themselves in the first 3 rows so God knows how it must have been at the back. If Twang decides to leave The Peel and take up residence at a bigger gig I will be delighted to join him on opening night. Sad to say I think we've outgrown The Peel. And I say that with the greatest of respect to it and what it's done for us over the years.