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[Geetar]

Slickness live is often just a sign you're a little too deep in your comfort zone. I've seen some pretty amazing musicians have another go when ballsing up live over the years.

And anyway, my idea of a thrilling performance is something quite different from the Busby Berkeley notion of honed and polished perfection.

[johninblack]

I think you guys have just about said it all. There is really only one answer, write easier songs. :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
I would much rather be entertained by a band doing their best to get a complex arrangement/part right than see a perfect but "safe" performance.
Jem, carry yew on boi, as they say round here, we all have bad days at the office.

[RacingHippo]

For an excellent example of how to cope when your performance takes on the topology of a Bartlett, look no further than our very own TBE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKx9vh8XPvg
Everything goes OK until about 4:20....

[tomskerous]

However, let us not forget that Frost is a hobby, a sideline, a fun thing generated by some talented guys who like a laugh whilst still excercising their abilities.

Many of these bands live really close to eachother too - Frost's geographical diversity would only really become viable when you hit Spocks size. Given the amount of rehearsal time they do get, I think they're brilliant.

Mikey, I agree there were fluffs, but I had a really great time. (Perhaps that's my pop spirit valuing entertainment over dazzling perfect musicianship.)

Aside: Recently went through a bit of a crisis on this front myself - piano teacher promptly gave me a bunch of *concert* recordings of 'the greats' (as opposed to studio recordings) and told me to listen carefully. Cocking up in complex music is an inevitability.

Even Horowitz (Vladimir, not Adam or Anthony) claimed that in all his career he'd only once ever had a piece go as well as he wanted on the night.

[LivingForever]

Even Horowitz (Vladimir, not Adam or Anthony) claimed that in all his career he'd only once ever had a piece go as well as he wanted on the night.

This seems to be a common trait with musicians... I have a friend who has an amazing voice and everything she sings sounds great to me, but she's forever claiming that her recordings are full of mistakes and are rubbish.  

I guess there's no harsher critic than yourself!

[DannySoisSage]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rll6ggk-Y40 Dream Theater last year screwing up and starting again. The difference is between part-timers like I have been who just plow through mistakes, and through professionals who want you to hear the piece as close to perfect as possible and so start again.

I wish I had been there but even more than that I hope we get some new live dates soon!  

[johninblack]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rll6ggk-Y40 Dream Theater last year screwing up and starting again.

Interesting you say "again". All the other times look to be there as well.
This all just goes to prove that it don't matter how good you are you will screw up eventually.

[micknand]

Hi

I do not claim to be a Frost* expert. But, I feel I have been to enough gigs over the last 30 years comment.

On Saturday night I saw a band who, from my perspective were having a ball - a party. And why not? One had just been nominated one of the best keyboard players, another the best Bass player and yet another - Musician of the year! To cap it all it was also a farewell to one of the best drummers I've have heard in a long time.

In contrast the last time I saw Steve Vai - the gig was sterile (and I should know I work in a hospital) no mistakes, everything exact and soulless (sp).

I know which I prefer, I haven't been back to see Steve Vai (actually I was bought the DVD of the tour and that is sterile too) but intend to see Frost* again.

Mick

[johninblack]

In contrast the last time I saw Steve Vai - the gig was sterile (and I should know I work in a hospital)

Quote of the week. LOL.

[JamesA]

I would have thought with Jem's contacts in other areas of the music business he could have got a backing tape to mime to so that everything was perfect.

[johninblack]

Agree totally Mick. I always find the performances where the band are obviously having a ball far more enjoyable than a dead pan emotionless one regardless of the musicianship and the rest of it and when a band such as Frost* come along that have fun and are top, blokes and top musicians I'll happily forgive the odd mess up. Considering the complexity of Jem's creations it's rather surprising that there aren't more but that's testament to the musicianship in Frost*? In terms of talent Frost* really are a supergroup or am I just being a fanboy?

[Bert]

On Saturday night I saw a band who, from my perspective were having a ball - a party. And why not? One had just been nominated one of the best keyboard players, another the best Bass player and yet another - Musician of the year! To cap it all it was also a farewell to one of the best drummers I've have heard in a long time.

Spot on  

[Bert]

In terms of talent Frost* really are a supergroup or am I just being a fanboy?

Admit it Jib, you are a bit    

[catherine]

On Saturday night I saw a band who, from my perspective were having a ball - a party. And why not? One had just been nominated one of the best keyboard players, another the best Bass player and yet another - Musician of the year! To cap it all it was also a farewell to one of the best drummers I've have heard in a long time.

Spot on  

Word!

the 3 Frost* gigs I have been to have all been such totally happy experiences I have come out of them all with a ridiculously large grin on my face. There's just something about a band of excellent musicians having such an infectiously good time playing wonderful music... my deepest thanks to all concerned.

[johninblack]

In terms of talent Frost* really are a supergroup or am I just being a fanboy?

Admit it Jib, you are a bit    

OK, I'm John and I'm a Frost* fanboy.