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Re: Milliontown Cover Questions
« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2009, 05:21:30 AM »
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sounds like you're takin' care of business there  :lol:


Attempting to.  I think most if not all the problem(s) I am facing will go away when the new ram stick comes in.  Then I can see what happens when it loads everything off the card.

Ideally, once you hit load all songs/samples from the load utility it should just load all the samples and everything and just fire it up right? I hope...lol

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« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2009, 11:36:54 AM »
You have to go to the Utility menu under the "Menu" button and select User restore - restore settings from the memory card.

It'll then prompt you to turn the Fantom on and off again and it should be good to go after that. :D

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« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2009, 01:25:31 PM »
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You have to go to the Utility menu under the "Menu" button and select User restore - restore settings from the memory card.

It'll then prompt you to turn the Fantom on and off again and it should be good to go after that. :D


Well, that is the one thing I didn't try.  Fancy that.  :D  :shock:

Unfortunately, it still doesn't work.  It's saying "Error: Illegal File" when I load it up.  I basically copied the Roland folder from the file you sent me to the card itself (with the Fantom connected via USB), so I don't understand what kind of illegalness they're spotting...maybe I'll re-download the file and try again.  :?

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Re: Milliontown Cover Questions
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2009, 09:29:16 PM »
hmmm, weird. It works just fine here on my X6. Have you got V2.10 installed on your 8?

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« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2009, 09:55:13 PM »
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hmmm, weird. It works just fine here on my X6. Have you got V2.10 installed on your 8?

No, I have V2.00.  I'll upgrade and post back to let you know what happens.  Maybe it's just my stroke of bad luck...thanks for checking back.

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« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2009, 11:33:14 PM »
Installed V2.10 and still no luck.  When I go to Utility--> Restore (from card) it says Error: Illegal File.  I connected to the computer via USB and had the card pop up on the desktop.  Copied the Roland folder from the one you sent me and then pasted it on the card (thereby replacing the one on the card) and tried to load it up like that, same issue.

I'm going to wait until I have the ram come in the mail so maybe it'll load all the samples for me and then I can see what other steps are left for me to do if it still doesn't work by then.

Sad day :(  I was looking forward to this, but getting to listen to some of the samples alone was pretty inspiring in and of itself!

More later when the DIMM comes in the mail...tomorrow?

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Re: Milliontown Cover Questions
« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2009, 12:33:12 AM »
I tried searching the Roland Clan boards in case I could find the answer and found someone called "eviani" on there with *exactly* the same problem....what are the chances of that, eh?  :)

Hope they can help you or that your extra memory sorts it out. Having such a gift from the Jemster only to have the tech let you down must be particularly gutting.

I have everything crossed fro yuo.... ;)
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« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2009, 12:59:25 AM »
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I tried searching the Roland Clan boards in case I could find the answer and found someone called "eviani" on there with *exactly* the same problem....what are the chances of that, eh?  :)

Hope they can help you or that your extra memory sorts it out. Having such a gift from the Jemster only to have the tech let you down must be particularly gutting.

I have everything crossed fro yuo.... ;)

Haha, thanks.  Nobody has responded over there.  I have a feeling that it's not busy with activity.  The last resort is calling Roland and seeing what is preventing me from doing this.

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Re: Milliontown Cover Questions
« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2009, 06:37:15 AM »
I'm not Fantom-enabled so this waffle might make no sense at all but I can imagine a scenario where the format and folder names need to be "just so" or an unhelpful error message appears.
Have you tried getting the Fantom to blank/format the card (assuming Jem's gems are somewhere safe) and getting the Fantom to write something to it....so it creates the folder structure using the right names and cases for folders and files....and then just replacing the file it wrote with Jem's?
If this fails then you could be fairly sure that it is either something about the file itself or the way you are copying it.
Some systems, even these days, cannot cope with filenames that are not in the ancient 8.3 format (you know.... WONDERL~.MID that kind of thing).
Several years ago I worked on a system where the fileneme was embedded in the file itself so renaming the file on a different computer effectively broke it....you could only rename the file using the system itself.
Erm....I'm out of ideas now....
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Re: Milliontown Cover Questions
« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2009, 01:19:04 PM »
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I'm not Fantom-enabled so this waffle might make no sense at all but I can imagine a scenario where the format and folder names need to be "just so" or an unhelpful error message appears.
Have you tried getting the Fantom to blank/format the card (assuming Jem's gems are somewhere safe) and getting the Fantom to write something to it....so it creates the folder structure using the right names and cases for folders and files....and then just replacing the file it wrote with Jem's?
If this fails then you could be fairly sure that it is either something about the file itself or the way you are copying it.
Some systems, even these days, cannot cope with filenames that are not in the ancient 8.3 format (you know.... WONDERL~.MID that kind of thing).
Several years ago I worked on a system where the fileneme was embedded in the file itself so renaming the file on a different computer effectively broke it....you could only rename the file using the system itself.
Erm....I'm out of ideas now....


Yeah, I tried that.  I've reformatted the card a few times through the Fantom to have it rebuilt the file structure correctly and then that's when I replace the folder with what Jem sense.

Come to think of it, the only thing I didn't try was to remove the fanx2.bin file included in the download.  I'm not quite sure what it was, although when I upgraded the Fantom OS to 2.10 the upgrade download came with the fanx2.bin file (approx. 20mb) which is what was used to upgrade the OS.  I'm not wondering if for some reason when it's trying to restore from the card whether that is the file that is in fact causing the problem? I'm not sure.

My ram is out for delivery this morning so I'll see what happens and if all else files, I'll erase the fanx2.bin file since I have the original zip file backed up and I'll see what happens.  The other solutions do include trying different memory cards but I don't have many of those lying around.  I rarely buy CF cards.
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Time to wait for the delivery man...

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Re: Milliontown Cover Questions
« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2009, 02:09:05 PM »
I'm wracking my brains now as it works just fine here with a carbon copy of the files you've got. Are you dropping the entire X7 folder onto the card? As in not taking the files out of the X7 folder?

If so, that'll be what's doing it. The X7 folder is just a carrier folder. The Fantom won't understand it.

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« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2009, 02:32:02 PM »
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I'm wracking my brains now as it works just fine here with a carbon copy of the files you've got. Are you dropping the entire X7 folder onto the card? As in not taking the files out of the X7 folder?

If so, that'll be what's doing it. The X7 folder is just a carrier folder. The Fantom won't understand it.

No, when the Roland Card pops up on my computer screen (I'm doing this on a PC btw, although maybe I'll try it on my macbook pro later) I copy the "ROLAND" folder (from the X7 folder you sent me) and I copy it to the Roland Card.  When it asks me if I want to replace files, I click yes to all.  I eject the card from the computer, unhook the USB, and then go into MENU--> UTILITY and to User Restore from the Card.  That didn't work so I redid the process over and then rebooted the Fantom before doing the restore, etc.  For some reason, that same message "Error: Illegal File" comes when it's reading the card.  So either, it's the card or it's something that is a problem on my end.

I'll see what happens later.  Thanks Jem for checking this out for me as well, I know you must be very busy at the moment so it means a lot that you're checking back :)

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Re: Milliontown Cover Questions
« Reply #42 on: March 18, 2009, 07:22:59 PM »
Well, unfortunately, I cannot seem to get this to work the way it should.  I have tried it now for almost two weeks and the farthest I've gotten is being able to load the samples into the Fantom and listen to the different samples that are triggered throughout.  I called up Roland today and we went through a few different steps several times and nothing seems to work.

If I try and do a User Restore from the Memory Card, I get "Error: Illegal File" and if I boot up with the card in PC Slot and load all the samples/data on the card, I get all the actual samples but everything in "Performances" and "Patch List" (with the Card Bank selected" shows up as INIT PATCH 001.  For whatever reason, it seems the keyboard demons are against me.

BUT, nevermind that.  Thank you Jem again for your generosity, at least I have the samples to work from and maybe this is a silent message challenging me to figure out how to set it up myself  :D Thanks again for your (Jem) help and for anyone else who offered suggestions.